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Morning all.

 

Mrs Badger and I went to see the new Star Trek film last night and before it started I saw my first promo for the upcoming Superman reboot..erm..reboot, "Man of Steel."

 

And there, right in the middle of the clip, blink and you'll miss it... did I just see an A-10 opening fire on Supes? If so, then a foolhardy move for our Hog I would think.

 

Then just as I was thinking how rare it is to see the A-10 in a movie, along comes the next promo which was for Brad Pitts new one, "World War Z" and yes, unless I'm mistaken, a squadron of A-10's flying past an aircraft carrier! :)

 

Is the Warthog going to become all in vogue and stuff do you think? Or could it be that the respective directors are actually "DCS World" denizens.

 

Badger Out.

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I saw that too Badger made me chuckle.

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Or do you think you notice warthogs more now that you have played DCS :)

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Is the Warthog going to become all in vogue and stuff do you think? Or could it be that the respective directors are actually "DCS World" denizens.

 

Badger Out.

 

Probably now that the U.S. military is thinking about shutting down some A-10 flyers to save money for the over budget F-35 it will become popular. People are slow to catch on at times.

 

I do remember though how the first Transformers movie didn't really do the A-10 justice. I did so enjoy the AC-130 scene; however.

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correct me if I am wrong but weren't there A10's in the last Terminator film too.

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The big question is, did it have LAU-88's with 3 Mavs loaded on all 11 stations? :megalol:

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Heh, I went and saw the new Star Trek movie last night with my wife too, and also noticed the A-10s in the previews for those movies. I've definitely been seeing more A-10s around, but Kaiza is probably correct that we simply notice them more now that we're all playing around with DCS.

 

Still, always makes me smile when I see the Hawg on film. Through DCS it has become somewhat special to me. :)

 

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I guess they realized how ultra-poor the F-35 performed when it chased McClane around that highway in Live Free or Die Hard, so Hollywood decided to fall back to something that actually works. :D

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kind of like when you buy a new car or truck....you tend to start seeing a lot of them. or maybe you just didnt notice before. i remember playing flaming cliffs a lot a few years ago then saw the a-10 in the last terminator movie. thought it was awesome.

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your title reminds me of "Destination Tokyo".. the lookout that got grilled for diving for a bird thinking its an airplane...

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:D Seriously, so was this Star Trek as good as the first?

 

Oooooh... talk about StarTrek? Here? Really I shouldn't..... oh all right then, you twisted my arm.

 

It was better than the first one imho leafer. (I'm assuming you mean the first of the reboots right? Of course right.)

 

I grew up in the original school of Trek and as much as I've really enjoyed all the spin off series, I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the original series and movies. Probably because of this I've had a hard time acclimatising to the newest movie reboot.

 

It's Trek, but it's not my Trek. This is entirely my own fault of course, but realising that fact is not enough to stop my mind from zeroing in on changes I can't see the point in them having made. In focussing on what it isn't, instead of more properly focussing on what it is.

 

So when we went to see the first of the reboots I spent twenty minutes or so struggling with.. "well that's not right is it!".. "Why have they done this?".. "Why is he saying that?" ... "Why are she and he.... oh that's just wrong!" But then I settled in, relaxed and just let it come at me and despite myself I left the theatre having enjoyed it overall.

 

So come this one I had higher hopes and of course it also had the advantage of my already having had my tantrum at the start of the first. I still grumbled to myself a little bit, but this time it was only for ten minutes instead of twenty before I settled in. And then in fairness much of my discontent is aimed at Uhura. (With all due apologies to Zoe Saldana)

 

If I might be allowed to cling for a moment longer to my original series prejudices, the original cast were very much two tiered. (well...more than two tiers actually..but let's not delve too deeply here.) There was the main trinity of Kirk, Spock and McCoy and then there were the secondary characters who were always included and who sometimes the stories focussed particularly on. Uhura, Sulu, Scotty, Checkov...etc.

 

In the newest film both Scotty and Uhuru have very much been elevated to first tier characters and I'm all for that, as long as the characters in question are strong enough to warrant the promotion.

 

In the case of Scotty I think the promotion is well warranted. I'll be honest and say that I came out of the first film thoroughly unimpressed with Scotty and wondering if the acclaim seemingly going to Simon Pegg was mostly a case of the kings new clothes. In this new outing though his character comes into his own and I finished up not only being swayed, but actually liking Simon Peggs portrayal.

 

Uhuru though.... I just don't see it. If there still is a "trinity" at the heart of the story (and there isn't really anymore, nor does there really need to be I suppose) then I'd even go as far as to say that they've unjustifiably bumped McCoy from it in favour of Uhuru and I just don't think she's a strong enough character to deserve it.

 

As far as I can tell, her main reason for being there is the whole romance storyline between her and Spock (don't get me started.) and that's not enough. She needs to be a proper character in her own right, otherwise she just looks like a token female thrown into the loop for political correctness sake and that's not fair to her character at all.

 

That aside... and despite having just dedicated five paragraphs to grumbling about it. When Mrs Badger turned to me on the car journey home and asked me what I'd thought of it. My answer was.. "I really enjoyed it!"

 

Singing it's praises without writing any spoilers is a tricky prospect, but here goes...

 

Firstly I think I did myself a huge favour by keeping strictly away from media discussion and/or making of programs on TV. The reason I say that is that the main baddie is one who is a particular fave of mine from the original series and had I known that in advance I'd have been very sceptical about both the story and Benedict Cumberbatch's ability to pull off the character.

 

Because I only discovered these things as the story unravelled though, I was able to judge and enjoy them by their own merits instead of ill pre conceived ideas based on a time gone by. Benedict Cumberbatch as it turns out was terrific. Not the character I knew, but why should he be! To break through my unwarranted prejudice, he really did great.

 

The story touches on numerous occasions to earlier iterations, with both nods and homages for fans and interesting turn arounds aplenty. By this point my inner voice which started saying "But wait..that's not the...." Was quickly told by my other inner voice to stfu! (If you'll excuse my being vulgar.)

 

Some people have criticised it for being more action orientated and not concentrating as much on the relationships between the characters. But for me and for who these new characters are, I think they got it just about right.

 

I should probably think about winding up now I suppose. So in closing I'll just say that I thoroughly enjoyed it and I heartily recommend it to both new and old fans alike. I only suggest that the old fans leave their pre conceived ideas at home and enjoy the new reboots for what they are.

 

For my part I'll try to do the same and I confidently predict the grumbling at the start of the next one will drop down to five minutes. Particularly if Uhuru stays at the coms desk where she belongs. (Oh you did not just say that!!)

 

Badger Out.


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correct me if I am wrong but weren't there A10's in the last Terminator film too.

 

Aye, special A10s with the Thrust-to-weight ratio of an F-15 if memory serves right. I think I remember mid-film having to bite my tongue wanting to tell the wife there was no way those planes could manouvre like that in real life. Must supress the inner-nerd!

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So in closing I'll just say that I thoroughly enjoyed it and I heartily recommend it to both new and old fans alike. I only suggest that the old fans leave their pre conceived ideas at home and enjoy the new reboots for what they are.

 

I'm right there with you, Badger. Personally, my days of loving Star Trek started with The Next Generation. When the reboot surfaced, I was more than skeptical: Why introduce old characters, why tell old stories?

 

I pretty much hated the first movie of the reboot, because I think it was a particularly bad movie with a particularly bad story. And I didn't particularly like the idea of the reboot at all (even though the actors can't be praised enough, they really did an outstanding job).

 

With Into Darkness, I had an idea of what the new universe was going to look like, so I could sort of leave the prejudice behind and enjoy or hate the movie for what it is. And, surprise, I really liked it. Within the reboot, I think Into Darkness is a really good movie. Outstanding actors once again, with the addition of Benedict Cumberbatch, and this time there was a story that actually (mostly) makes sense. I liked the multitude of references to previous incarnations of Star Trek and how they were put upside down.

 

I'm now in a state where I'm almost looking forward to the next one. :)

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:D

 

Seriously, so was this Star Trek as good as the first?

 

just awful... idiocracy will rule the earth... that's a fact.

 

don't read anymore if you are afraid of some spoilers...

 

the movie is just a pretext to some mindless spectacular civilian deaths due to to never ending bs of mindless unjustified terrorism. There are no extraterestrials there... (besides few klingons bystanders that get killed quickly and we move on anyway) just some inside terrorism... terrorism... terrorism... terrorism...

 

And the science parts... man... i didn't laugh so hard since Movie 43... All sorts of nephews and daughters that are good at anything and work clandestinely to super top secret weapons that nobody seems to care who is working with them anyway... All sorts of made up silly "gimmicks" and "scientific names" that suppose to awe the average red neck (from any country)...

 

If the previous movie had the "red matter/energy" (seriously I was expecting the green one this time) this one have now the captain fixing the spacecraft WARP engine by kicking!! the two... $%#$$^ into alignment... stuff that supposedly should require nanometric precision is just kicked in a monkey like choreography (seriously the whole crew just looks clumsy in all movements) ... and that's because all space ships that have a malfunction engine in space just happens to fall into Earth within 2 minutes... no ejection pods, no help from the colosal starfleet nearby, no teleporting... nothing... just falling to Earth... unless it's the enemy in the same situation or worse that just happens to crashland into a city and kill millions... without the bad guy... of course... the badguy ejects cause his blood is good for saving the good ol' captain that is irradiated by the WARP drive fixing... remember? This require of course some cheap Vampire Movie scheme later on...

 

These are just few examples... the movie don't stop for one minute at insulting your intelligence... literally not a single minute.

 

This movie was complete cow pat. Sorry for bad review... :D

 

P.S. I almost forgot... the captain is trying so desperately to fix the warpdrive so 50 rocket boosters can fire downwards to stop the spaceship from crashing into the Earth... yep... that's right folks... Warp drives are just the sparkplugs of rocket boosters...


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Morning all.

 

Mrs Badger and I went to see the new Star Trek film last night and before it started I saw my first promo for the upcoming Superman reboot..erm..reboot, "Man of Steel."

 

And there, right in the middle of the clip, blink and you'll miss it... did I just see an A-10 opening fire on Supes? If so, then a foolhardy move for our Hog I would think.

 

Then just as I was thinking how rare it is to see the A-10 in a movie, along comes the next promo which was for Brad Pitts new one, "World War Z" and yes, unless I'm mistaken, a squadron of A-10's flying past an aircraft carrier! :)

 

Is the Warthog going to become all in vogue and stuff do you think? Or could it be that the respective directors are actually "DCS World" denizens.

 

Badger Out.

 

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Could not resist!


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