The June 21st DCS News Update Discussion Thread

[SkateZilla]

Thanks for the constant updates Matt and ED.

Everyone should have a Wags in their house. ED should start selling Matt Wagner dolls where you pull the string and he gives you a cheerie update to get you through the day. I'd buy one.

 

 

Scary.......:lookaround::lookaround:

 

 

On the Other Hand, Wags Merch..

[Brisse]

Glad we got the A-10A AFM. Wags held his promise even though his signature says: "EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE" :D

[GGTharos]

I land it every time without collapsing the gear. That's not to say that fixes don't need to happen - they do.

 

So, I'm not saying that you suck at landing, just that ... uhhh, you know :D

 

I was waiting for someone to say "Cuz flanker pilots always shoot you down, so you dont have to land", lol

 

 

It's to the point now, instead of Re-Arm Re-Fuel online, I just ditch it and re-spawn.

[joey45]

So the Migs and the Cy-33 is being left out once again...

[Chops]

Matt,

 

Thanks for the substantial update this week.

 

I am still not clear on the difference between the DCS Flaming Cliffs (DCS FC) modules that are planned and the current aircraft in Flaming Cliffs 3. You mentioned in this weeks update that the FC3 A-10A will be upgraded to the AFM in release 1.2.5. How does the FC3 A-10A v. 1.2.5 compare with the planned DCS FC A-10A module?

[joey45]

Matt,

 

Thanks for the substantial update this week.

 

I am still not clear on the difference between the DCS Flaming Cliffs (DCS FC) modules that are planned and the current aircraft in Flaming Cliffs 3. You mentioned in this weeks update that the FC3 A-10A will be upgraded to the AFM in release 1.2.5. How does the FC3 A-10A v. 1.2.5 compare with the planned DCS FC A-10A module?

 

You won't need LOMAC to install the modules.

[Wags]

Matt,

 

Thanks for the substantial update this week.

 

I am still not clear on the difference between the DCS Flaming Cliffs (DCS FC) modules that are planned and the current aircraft in Flaming Cliffs 3. You mentioned in this weeks update that the FC3 A-10A will be upgraded to the AFM in release 1.2.5. How does the FC3 A-10A v. 1.2.5 compare with the planned DCS FC A-10A module?

 

There will be zero difference between the FC3 A-10A and the A-10A: DCS Flaming Cliffs.

[SkateZilla]

I land it every time without collapsing the gear. That's not to say that fixes don't need to happen - they do.

 

So, I'm not saying that you suck at landing, just that ... uhhh, you know :D

 

I can land it fine, gently with no gas.., then it will just roll right into the ground,, like there's no collision detection for the gear and struts, as soon as the airframe hits the deck it does the scraping noise.

[GGTharos]

That seems to be triggerred by either descent rate, AoA, or a combination of both. I used to think that if you make the slightest bounce, the gear will go through the ground. I land it the same way every time, and I've not had a gear collapse since.

 

Again, that said, it's still a bug that needs fixing.

[SkateZilla]

no biggie I just stick with the A-10C or P-51D for a bit.

[Scoggs]

I wonder what version of the Charlie Hornet they will do. Hopefully one of the newer ones with the newer Avionics suite and EPE's

[Scendore]

Sigh...

 

It's a bummer that the AFMs and such will not be offered for Free to those that already purchased FC3. I for one have purchased about every edition of Flanker 1 through LOMAC including FC 1 FC2 and now FC3. I've also purchased BS 1 and 2 and DCS A10C. Can the DCS folks show a little love to the ones that have literally purchased their products several times?

 

Scendore out

[*Rage*]

Thx for updates Wags.

 

DCS has a very bright future imo.

[Psyrixx]

I land it every time without collapsing the gear. That's not to say that fixes don't need to happen - they do.

 

So, I'm not saying that you suck at landing, just that ... uhhh, you know :D

 

I agree with this. I can land it just fine, I've only had the gear collapse on me once during an admittedly hard landing. :pilotfly:

[joey45]

Sigh...

 

It's a bummer that the AFMs and such will not be offered for Free to those that already purchased FC3. I for one have purchased about every edition of Flanker 1 through LOMAC including FC 1 FC2 and now FC3. I've also purchased BS 1 and 2 and DCS A10C. Can the DCS folks show a little love to the ones that have literally purchased their products several times?

 

Scendore out

 

It would be nice but as a business standpoint it won't be financially doable.

 

EDIT:

If it was, say, $10 for those that have FC3 then yes they won't be losing that much but for free...

Edited June 21, 2013 by joey45

[Hawk_5]

Sigh...

 

It's a bummer that the AFMs and such will not be offered for Free to those that already purchased FC3. I for one have purchased about every edition of Flanker 1 through LOMAC including FC 1 FC2 and now FC3. I've also purchased BS 1 and 2 and DCS A10C. Can the DCS folks show a little love to the ones that have literally purchased their products several times?

 

Scendore out

 

 

I think you need to read Wags last post very carefully and reread the update.

FC3 and the DCS Flaming Cliffs aircraft will be identical. How do you come to think that your missing out on something? You own Flaming Cliffs already right? Next update the A10A gets the AFM as part of 1.2.5 for FC3!

[Axion]

So so looking forward to the Su-27 AFM, such a milestone IMO.

[Feuerfalke]

I think you need to read Wags last post very carefully and reread the update.

FC3 and the DCS Flaming Cliffs aircraft will be identical. How do you come to think that your missing out on something? ...

 

Sorry, but that seems not quite correct:

 

We have not yet come to a decision regarding the availability of the new advanced flight models to the FC3 aircraft.

[aaron886]

That's cool stuff, Wags! Glad to hear about some of the focus on the IG. I must say, I would like to see "particle" wingtip vapor though... in my experience that gives the best visual result.

[Grim_Smiles]

So the Migs and the Cy-33 is being left out once again...

 

 

Other FC3 aircraft will be improved as well (like the Su-27, Su-25, F-15C and A-10A). When they are further along, we will discuss them.

 

Wags should have added "just" to "like the SU-27..." to make it a bit more clearer, but you have your update on the MiGs and 33.

[SkateZilla]

Just pointing out what was brought to my Attention:

 

FC3 Owners:

A-10A Gets AFM in 1.2.5

SU-25 Uses Same AFM as SU-25T.

 

So you'd only need F-15 AFM or SU-27 AFM.

[Nate--IRL--]

SU-25 Uses Same AFM as SU-25T.

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Not the same AFM per se - they both have individual flight models and fly very differently, once you know the aircraft well.

 

Nate

[Ratfink]

Lil peeve/constructive criticism, how's F-15 landing not a Priority?

 

+1

[kontiuka]

Not the same AFM per se - they both have individual flight models and fly very differently, once you know the aircraft well.

 

Nate

Ya. The Su-25T is a bit more of a slug in the air because of the added weight of the electronics and stuff.

[ALDEGA]

Not the same AFM per se - they both have individual flight models and fly very differently

For the AFM of the Su-25A and Su-25T, there are separate .DLL's (named Legacy_AFM_Su25.dll and Legacy_AFM_Su39.dll in DCS), in addition to Legacy_AFM_Base.dll.

Presumably both are the same FM, but with different coefficients. (same file size, different hash)