King_Hrothgar Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Actually in air combat you change altitude alot so you always have to watch out for the altimeter to change mixture and supercharger accordingly, it gets your eyes off target , you can use that time to look around instead. I once thought the lack of automation was fine, too, till I flew Russian planes in Expert mode in BoS. I found it trivial but I wasn't new to it. Had been playing RoF for a few years at that point (along with others prior to RoF). I actually find those planes more tricky since they lack variable pitch props (over reving is a big deal) and the mixture far more finicky. This is a splendid way of setting yourself up for an engine failure. If the engine is operating within acceptable parameters, why would it fail? Last time I flew an advanced Cessna (RL I mean), just like P-51 management plus manual mixture and cowl flaps, it was a nice work load until you get used to it, and still sometimes you forget to check for mixture (with EGT, not altitude... :music_whistling:) manifold as it changes with altitude and that while you try to fly, navigate, communicate, etc. I know simulator is more relaxed, but add to that manual supercharger management, a couple radiators and a high performance engine. I don't think it like a walk in the park :smilewink:. Just wait until P-47 with manual turbocharger management. There are many parameter that can go wrong and your engine is out. S! I fly the P-51D in DCS on full manual control (ignoring constant speed prop), it isn't a problem. I actually find it rather forgiving, no mixture to worry about and a lot less sensitive to abuse than the RoF/BoS planes. I don't say these things to be a braggart, though perhaps it's coming off that way. If you play WW2 CFS's, you quickly learn to optimize the engine without a thought in combat. The same arguments here on engine management could just as easily be made for operating the radar in the FC3 F-15C. We all know it's trivial once you know how. But if you try to explain it to someone, it's going to seem way more complicated than it actually is. On a related note, I don't actually want the La-5 in DCS at this time. My biggest complaint about the whole DCS WW2 thing is that it lacks concentrated content (ground units, proper AI, AI planes and so on). Throwing in an eastern front bird isn't going to help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunzun Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Agree. Manual settings make for a steeper learning curve. Once you master it could be even more efficient in some situations. By the way. Turbocharger management in p-47 wasn't that complicated. IIRC the turbo take over the mp over a given height (I think you control the mp by means of the turbo controller not the throttle) and even the controllers (rpm, Mp and turbo) could be linked together to move them at once. Even have a warning light in the panel that blinks when the turbo is getting to its maximum recommended rpm. Was more complex in the first series (mainly B and C) but along the way was corrected. In essence is the same. Once you master it is another instinctive set of actions you have to do. Edited April 13, 2015 by Zunzun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctguy1955 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I thought the A10c was hard to learn... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0tv3UJoiKo&list=FLe8j9knzhanl8rUN5rEHF8w&index=6 for a WWII plane, The P-61B was so awesome !!! I sure would love to see this be a MOD for 2.0 someday !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bl_asd Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 please..I want a zero, A6M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOnTheOP Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0tv3UJoiKo&list=FLe8j9knzhanl8rUN5rEHF8w&index=6 for a WWII plane, The P-61B was so awesome !!! I sure would love to see this be a MOD for 2.0 someday !!! Want. Somewhat less than the A-26, but still, WANT. Edited April 23, 2015 by OutOnTheOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 F4U Corsair "The Bent Wing Bird" So just day dreaming at work, who else is excited for an announcement for this bird? There was hint from LNS but to yet be confirmed. However with ED's announcement of the P-47, we'll have the basis for the R-2800 Twin Wasp, and I mean, who doesn't want a carrier born bird? For those interested in getting a headstart on the know how, lets watch our dear old friend take us for a tour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nubn_QpkHnI. Anyone have manuals or fun stats we need to know? Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 The Hawg would be a most welcome addition to DCS' stable of WWII fighters!! I'd like to see them begin work on a carrier to fly it off of though. The F8F Bearcat will be awesome once it is released by VEAO! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 28, 2015 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2015 Next to the Spitfire, the F4U is my favorite aircraft, I would love to have a DCS level version. And would love to fly with the Black Sheep virtual squadron :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Yes I agree Razor, a detailed carrier is indeed needed for WW2 naval modules, really need that LSO in deck to help out on the short final. I found some more training videos on youtube link below Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog51 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Did I hear Carrier opp's... Wouldn't it be nice to simulate the skills needed to be a WWII Naval Aviator!!! Then Progress to the Angle Decks!!! Then on to the Fast movers chasing the ball!!!! Just to think about it, puts me on another level..:) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lib Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Well, i asked for an F4U in many post of this forum ! :) Definitively my favorite aircraft... and she's so sexy ! :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLion213 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Next to the Spitfire, the F4U is my favorite aircraft, I would love to have a DCS level version. And would love to fly with the Black Sheep virtual squadron :) Hmm...that squadron has been mentioned here before...here it is: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2289266#post2289266 Surely a coincidence...;) The F4U in the South Pacific would be amazing! Such a remarkable machine. The R2800 is my favorite engine of the war, it's the WWII aviation equivalent of the big, American, push-rod, naturally aspirated V8 or V10 engine - tremendous abilities that were still under appreciated. It made everything it was fitted to an absolute BEAST. -Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapeJam Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Since we're talking the late 1944 I hope that it'll be the F4U-4. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrett_g Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Here's my thread on why I think the Corsair would make a good addition to DCS: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=126769 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo38 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 One of my three favorite ships, the Corsair! I'd rather have a P-38, of course, but I'd not look a gift Corsair in the intake, so to speak. (Actually, I would look in the intake, but ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog51 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 One of my three favorite ships, the Corsair! I'd rather have a P-38, of course, but I'd not look a gift Corsair in the intake, so to speak. (Actually, I would look in the intake, but ...) and... I would not kick the P-38 out of the line up either.. Another Super bird that would look nice in the DCS hanger!!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Just the fact that the corsair was just as good, if not better than the t bird and could do carrier ops plus all the CAS roles also is what needs to be done. That and a complete pacific theatre map with small islands and air strips............oops thoughts rolling out again Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beagleboy03 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Here is a great resource for all things Corsair related: http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/vought/f4ucorsair.html It is a great sight and has tons of other aircraft and documents. Pretty easy to lose a few afternoons browsing all the info. STORM6 DUSTOFF16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teapot Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Since we're talking the late 1944 I hope that it'll be the F4U-4. ;) +1 ... Was my favourite flying machine for years ... from back in the Air Warrior days, except it was a F4U-1D! My bible to fly it was Fletchmann's howto fly the Corsair. Aye, those were the days! "A true 'sandbox flight sim' requires hi-fidelity flyable non-combat utility/support aircraft." Wishlist Terrains - Bigger maps Wishlist Modules - A variety of utility aircraft to better reflect the support role. E.g. Flying the Hornet ... big yawn ... flying a Caribou on a beer run to Singapore? Count me in. Extracting a Recon Patrol from a hastily prepared landing strip at a random 6 figure grid reference? Now yer talking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctguy1955 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 The F4U Corsair and then the P-61b would be my favourite choices for upcoming new WWII planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullfrog_ Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Rather see the F6F-5 personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapeJam Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Just the fact that the corsair was just as good, if not better than the t bird and could do carrier ops plus all the CAS roles also is what needs to be done. That and a complete pacific theatre map with small islands and air strips............oops thoughts rolling out again To be fair, at 8000 meters the T bird would be dancing around while even the F4U4 would be choking. But yeah, other than high altitude performance the F4U was far superior. I'm not sure if the P47's massive turbo charger could justify the sacrifice made to and medium altitude performance and agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 To be fair, at 8000 meters the T bird would be dancing around while even the F4U4 would be choking. But yeah, other than high altitude performance the F4U was far superior. I'm not sure if the P47's massive turbo charger could justify the sacrifice made to and medium altitude performance and agility. I'm only assuming that at current the ww2 player list I don't see anyone above 6k meters, so unless they decide to stick high and use their advandages, the Corsair will be the clear decisive leader. Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 To be fair, at 8000 meters the T bird would be dancing around while even the F4U4 would be choking. But yeah, other than high altitude performance the F4U was far superior. I'm not sure if the P47's massive turbo charger could justify the sacrifice made to and medium altitude performance and agility. True, but I think the P47 was filling a very specific bomber escort niche first and foremost I suspect? I wouldn't be at all surprised if the ground attack role was an afterthought, and down to finding a role for them once the Mustang arrived on the scene. I also would love to see the F4F released. A truly iconic airframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Here is a great resource for all things Corsair related: http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/vought/f4ucorsair.html It is a great sight and has tons of other aircraft and documents. Pretty easy to lose a few afternoons browsing all the info. I'll have some good reading overnight at work while nothings happening haha Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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