GPU Upgrade: Nvdia 760 GTX, or ATI 7950 HD??

[VanjaB]

Im looking to buy one of these cards, on paper the ATI is the faster card and it usually sports 3 GB of memory compared to 2 GB on the 760. However I have heard that DCS likes Nvidia cards far more, and indeed most games like Nvidia cards more often than not. These two cards are in my price range.

 

 

Suggestions, comments? For reference I have a 3570K, 16 Gig RAM, and system and DCS install on an Intel SSD disk.

 

My current GPU is the 6870 HD and its just barely passable performance at all @ 1080p.

 

If you have a similar setup, can you post some performance numbers please? I mostly fly the Huey and Mi-8.

Edited September 21, 2013 by VanjaB

[VanjaB]

Rather than tell you why you should or should not get the 760gtx i would tell you that i had the 7950 and my frames were relatively low compared to the card potential.

In numbers with 13.6 beta 2 driver and 1.2.6 dcs was giving 25 avg frame in A10C.

Now if you ask me suggestions about the gtx 760 i would answer this: even if the 7950 MIGHT BE a little more power full (pure supposition) i would still prefer the gtx 760 because in the worst scenario i can still buy a second card and use sli because it works, instead with the ATI i would be limited to keep the card as it is or upgrade to a new model since crossfire doesn't work.

 

Just for your information i switched from 7950 to gtx 780 and contrary to most opinions i got a huge improvement.

 

Hang on, you switched from 7950 to the GTX 780 or the 760? The difference between the two is quite significant.

[VanjaB]

Ok, thanks for your input.

[Hunden Ynk]

Has anybody ever done a proper AMD vs Nvidia test with comparable cards, would be interesting for sure...

[trooph]

My 2 cents.

It all depends on the preferences. Im an ATI user and im somewhat happy with my card. 7850 2gb sligtly OC. Average fps is around 50 with aax4 HDR normal and all setting except water on high. It drops to 35 when both MFDs are on.

All with 4670k@4.1 on SATA3 HDD and 8gb 2133 cl11 ram.

In games like Battlefield or crysis both, ATI and Nvidia, work well but lots of folks are saying that DCS is actualy more smoother on Nvidia...

 

 

 

This guy in my opinion sums everything up.

 

[cichlidfan]

My 2 cents.

It all depends on the preferences. Im an ATI user and im somewhat happy with my card.

 

You said it all right there. It does depend on the situation but in general I have less issues since I switched to Nvidia cards.

[Tone71]

Im looking to buy one of these cards, on paper the ATI is the faster card and it usually sports 3 GB of memory compared to 2 GB on the 760. However I have heard that DCS likes Nvidia cards far more, and indeed most games like Nvidia cards more often than not. These two cards are in my price range.

 

 

Suggestions, comments? For reference I have a 3570K, 16 Gig RAM, and system and DCS install on an Intel SSD disk.

 

My current GPU is the 6870 HD and its just barely passable performance at all @ 1080p.

 

If you have a similar setup, can you post some performance numbers please? I mostly fly the Huey and Mi-8.

 

I recently had this decision to make and ended up going from HD 6870 to the 760 GTX; I did a lot of research and it seemed the better option (and I've almost always gone for ATI in the past!). Can't give you figures as away from home until the weekend but you will not be disappointed.

[trooph]

You said it all right there. It does depend on the situation but in general I have less issues since I switched to Nvidia cards.

 

Yup U are right. It was intentional. NExt graphics I'll buy is Nvidia. But it will take few months before I will do that :)

Im not a fanboy of either. But really I saw how simillar priced nvidia performs..and im bit dissapointed with ATI. Even thou its faster on paper its slower in reality. And AA is just fps killer..no matter what game.

Nvidia deals with AA much better..

[Hadwell]

I had a HD5850, upgraded from that to a GTX570, and from that to the GTX780, around the 5850 era was when ati was better than nvidia, before directx11 came out, back around when the geforce 9 series was new, the Geforce 9800 and variants, were the fastest cards you could buy, and the reason why ATI was better for a very short time was because the HD5850 was not only the fastest card you could buy, but the only one that supported directx11...for a very short time... like 3 months...

 

 

now, the only thing ATi still has going for it is how many frames per second you get per dollar you pay...

 

that does not translate into epic goodness, just cheapness

 

you may say nvidia is overpriced, but that doesn't change the fact ati is underpowered and doesn't have physx.

 

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7950-vs-GeForce-GTX-760

Edited September 23, 2013 by Hadwell

[VanjaB]

I recently had this decision to make and ended up going from HD 6870 to the 760 GTX; I did a lot of research and it seemed the better option (and I've almost always gone for ATI in the past!). Can't give you figures as away from home until the weekend but you will not be disappointed.

 

This is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for, someone who had a very similar situation to mine. Well you have convinced me guys Im going for Nvidia. I have to say Im not really exuberant with this solution, since Ive felt that in recent years ATI is the better bang-for-buck deal but everyone seems to say that Nvidia works better with the DCS engine so thats what I'll be buying.

Edited September 23, 2013 by VanjaB

[roadrabbit]

Taking this a bit further, I am using a GTX590 and running three 24 inch monitors. I have two questions:

 

1. I have 24 GB of RAM installed, but only 16 GB usable: why the limit? Would another GTX 590 in SLI allow the use of more RAM? (Do I really know what I am talking about? - Probably not! :D )

 

2. I am thinking of changing my HD to a SSD - what are recommendations?

[Tone71]

This is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for, someone who had a very similar situation to mine. Well you have convinced me guys Im going for Nvidia. I have to say Im not really exuberant with this solution, since Ive felt that in recent years ATI is the better bang-for-buck deal but everyone seems to say that Nvidia works better with the DCS engine so thats what I'll be buying.

 

I think the 760 range is particularly good bang for buck, even compared to ATI. Don't forget to clear your computer of everything ATI (drivers, ccc, registry) before installing anything nVidia!

[Togg]

I have 24 GB of RAM installed, but only 16 GB usable: why the limit?

The limit is called win 7 premium.

 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7

[roadrabbit]

The limit is called win 7 premium.

 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7

 

 

:thumbup: Yes - I have already found out, but thanks!

 

I have now also installed Windows 7 Professional - see the thread in this forum for details. Wish I had known sKateZilla's two cents worth before I started that little run-around. :doh:

I now have ALL my RAM operational

[Davis0079]

760gtx will not disappoint...

 

 

unless you have the big bucks for a titan(very handy with multi monitors) you can consider this a good goto card

 

 

http://www.legitreviews.com/evga-geforce-gtx-760-superclocked-w-acx-cooling-video-card-review_2240

 

 

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"When it comes to performance the EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked w/ ACX proved to be one heck of a contender! If you game on a single monitor, this card should have plenty of power and be able to run all the game titles with the image quality settings you want. At 1920×1080 this card performed excellent and was nearly equal to the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680. Seeing a ~$250 card running with a card that used to be $500 when it first came out is impressive.

Overclocking of the EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB video card showed that with a little time and effort, you can make this card faster than a GeForce GTX 680 in most all game titles. We were able to overclock the GPU by 130MHz and the memory by 775MHz, which is insane considering this card was already factory overclocked. When NVIDIA GPU boost kicked in with out overclocked settings we had the 1152 CUDA cores ripping through frames at 1320MHz with the 2GB of GDDR5 memory running at 7560MHz. This is the best overclock that we have ever done on a GeForce GTX 760 and keep in mind the reference card comes clocked at 980MHz core (1033MHz boost) and 6008MHz memory. Obviously, we had no complaints when it came to performance or overclocking."

 

 

the 760s in SLI score through the roof with a solid processor pushing them.....I wouldnt put a AMD dual core in front of them and expect much....but any i5 or i7 (or equivalent) will not suffer from installing one of theses or two

[Hadwell]

SSD's are awesome, i have an OCZ agility 3 256gb, but there's better ones than this now.

 

as for the gtx760 i think two 760s are about 10-25% faster than a gtx titan and cost about 100$ less then a gtx780, although that's assuming you're running games optimized for SLI...

 

I guess there's about 300 games that support sli right now,

 

anyway, i'd rather pay the extra 100$ for the 780 over two 760s even though the 780 is 10% slower than the gtx titan, because with one powerful card you know you'll always get max performance, whereas with two not as powerful cards, you never know if the game you're playing will only make use of one of your cards and u'll lose a crap load of power....

 

although i will admit... its really tempting to buy a second gtx780...

Edited September 25, 2013 by Hadwell

[xxJohnxx]

I got myself the ASUS GTX780 Direct CUII OC a few weeks ago. I had a Asus GTX560Ti Direct CUII OC before, and the performance increase was huge!

Example: Running the UH-1H quick mission where you take off from the runway in Tibsil. With the 560 I got about 10-15 frames. With the 780 I now get 50 frames in the same conditions.

 

I run a Samsung 840 Pro SSD and I am really happy with that too!

[VanjaB]

Will probably be buying it next week, as I am in the process of switching banks. As soon as I get it I will post some numbers for comparison.

[VanjaB]

MSI GTX 760 TF 4GB DDR5 version it is...

 

Have to say Im a very happy puppy. The difference is very pronounced, I have to say at least as much as doubling in performance in most scenarios.

 

Now what to do with all that extra VRAM.... ;)

[Alireza.kh]

i am going to buy sapphire 7870 ghz edition , guys do you recommend it for dcs?

[SkateZilla]

I'd wait a lil bit, R9 series is set to launch, which means Price reductions.

 

 

DCS and FSX Favor Intel/nVidia.

[cichlidfan]

Yep, waiting for the ASUS 780, I have my eye on, to drop to $500 hopefully.

[aaron886]

Waiting for the GIGABYTE GTX 760 4GB to arrive at my door. Pretty excited, sounds like it's a good pick. I went with 4GB for media applications.

[theGozr]

I wounder about the AMD R series

[cichlidfan]

I wounder about the AMD R series

 

They are made by AMD, and even worse, you have to use AMD drivers. :megalol: