Is this a Stick Trimming Bug?

[Snacko]

Just got the Mi-8 yesterday, and when I fly it with the Controls Indicator (red box showing hotas - Ctrl-Enter) open, my joystick diamond is always about 20% right and about 20% down when the stick is centered. I am not touching the stick. It just starts off that way every time. When I fly the Huey or any other aircraft the diamond and rudder start off centered correctly and work fine. Maybe this is a bug?

 

And each time that I press T to trim, it just moves the diamond 20% more to the right and down? It's almost as if something is sending a signal to the game that the stick is being pushed, so it re-centers further and further from center with each press of T. Attached are a series of screenshots showing this problem. In these pics I never touched the stick at all. I just pressed the T key several times.

 

Pressing the T key does nothing without the engines running. The diamond is centered fine when the engine is off.

 

See attached pics.

[cichlidfan]

I noticed that as well, and assumed there was a reason for it, which would be clear once we had a manual. It just seems like a rather glaring error, even for a beta release.

[Snacko]

I was not sure if that was a bug or not since you need the Mi8 trimmed about to that position for stability on the ground and taking off. Maybe they were spawning us in trimmed already? But then the T key is not working correctly then..

[IonicRipper]

Do you have the control helper option ticked under the Mi8 special section of the option menu?

 

I was wondering the same at first and noticed I had control helper on.

[Flagrum]

Do you have "Control Helper" activated under Options->Special->Mi8MTV2 ? :o)

[GregP]

I picked up Mi-8 yesterday but haven't seen that bug. Looks to me like you've got some other controller affecting cyclic pitch and roll. Did you 'clear category' on every controller when you first set things up? Always a good idea.

[Snacko]

Yes, it was that Control Helper that was causing the problems. I turned that off and the stick centers and trims correctly now.

 

What is that Control Helper for??

[Nate--IRL--]

Helping control.

 

Nate

[IonicRipper]

From the quickstart guide:

 

If you find the flight model too difficult or if you lack sufficient flight control hardware to fly it effectively, you can enable the Control Helper mode in the OPTIONS > SPECIAL > Mi-8MTV2 menu. This will enable a kind of AI copilot that will attempt to stop you from getting into too much trouble.

[Snacko]

Sweet! Thanks Nate.

 

Rep. Inbound m8.

[Snacko]

From the quickstart guide:

If you find the flight model too difficult or if you lack sufficient flight control hardware to fly it effectively, you can enable the Control Helper mode in the OPTIONS > SPECIAL > Mi-8MTV2 menu. This will enable a kind of AI copilot that will attempt to stop you from getting into too much trouble.

 

I wonder why the trimmer key just keeps trimming right and back then? With that option on the trimmer key does not seem to work correctly?

[Snacko]

...assumed there was a reason for it, which would be clear once we had a manual.

 

There is a quickstart guide which is pretty good here: DCS World\Mods\aircrafts\Mi-8MTV2\Doc

 

 

Does anybody know if there is a KeyCommands list somewhere??

[159th_Falcon]

I wonder why the trimmer key just keeps trimming right and back then? With that option on the trimmer key does not seem to work correctly?

 

Because that is the rough position for the cyclic to keep an stable Hover.

 

If you disable the control helper, the game won't anticipate the hover, and leave the controls centered.

 

Just ignore it, and try to fly, the trimmer should work in the sense that once your flying, and you trim it, the cyclic should stay in that position.

 

Keep in mind though that there may be corrections carried out by the control helper so it may not be 100% accurate.

[GregP]

Does anybody know if there is a KeyCommands list somewhere??

 

Don't think so, but you can generate one in the controls GUI by clicking Make HTML.