RagnarDa Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 it points back to the user. Well actually it can be anything. A crash like this just means the error wasn't handled by DCS own error catching. Possible culprits (that I can think of) are: - Any combination of software and hardware - Any combination of modules - Any combination of mods - Any combination of settings in DCS and Windows or any other software or hardware - Any combination of the above but at a small rate that over time acumulates to a real detectable error or vice versa. This unfortunstely leaves out a pretty large area to seearch for why some have this issue and others don't. I didn't have the crash yesterday night (nothing changed on my comp) but to help to nail it down I can say I have all the modules plus the F-16 EFM and was running among other things TS3 on Windows 8 with UAC enabled. DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well actually it can be anything. A crash like this just means the error wasn't handled by DCS own error catching. Possible culprits (that I can think of) are: - Any combination of software and hardware - Any combination of modules - Any combination of mods - Any combination of settings in DCS and Windows or any other software or hardware - Any combination of the above but at a small rate that over time acumulates to a real detectable error or vice versa. This unfortunstely leaves out a pretty large area to seearch for why some have this issue and others don't. I didn't have the crash yesterday night (nothing changed on my comp) but to help to nail it down I can say I have all the modules plus the F-16 EFM and was running among other things TS3 on Windows 8 with UAC enabled. Well, for most people who have this error (like me) 1.2.5 was stable and worked fine. I would start there, and look for a change that was made and might cause an error. SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarDa Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well, for most people who have this error (like me) 1.2.5 was stable and worked fine. I would start there, and look for a change that was made and might cause an error. SB11 Yes but you are missing my point. The difference between 1.2.5 and 1.2.6 represent not only what three months work on EDs part, but also one completely new module (Mi-8) and updated mods if you are using that in addition to any updates to drivers or the operating system. DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Yes but you are missing my point. The difference between 1.2.5 and 1.2.6 represent not only what three months work on EDs part, but also one completely new module (Mi-8) and updated mods if you are using that in addition to any updates to drivers or the operating system. That's all very impressive, but what good is it if so many people can't use it due to instability issues? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I don't know if I get Runtime Error in single player; Last 4 days I constantly get error in Multiplayer arena. First! I got Runtime error window. When clicked OK, APPCrash window comes (below). Later second APPCrash window appears, this time Module name: A10C_cockpit.dll or someting... WTF! I'm tired to fight with errors and bugs. I quit to play DCS. Enough! Bye... (Edit: By the way, this is my 1000th message on forum.) Sorunlu Olay Adı: APPCRASH Uygulama Adı: DCS.exe Uygulama Sürümü: 1.2.6.17746 Uygulama Zaman Damgası: 5225b96f Hata Modülü Adı: uh1_protect.dll Hata Modülü Sürümü: 5.70.46.4 Hata Modülü Zaman Damgası: 5225bcb4 Özel Durum Kodu: 40000015 Özel Durum Uzaklığı: 000000000002e2ee OS Sürümü: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3 Yerel Kimlik: 1055 Ek Bilgiler 1: ac3c Ek Bilgiler 2: ac3c736c072fb320659f14fb2b4a17f5 Ek Bilgiler 3: dfea Ek Bilgiler 4: dfea8026abd8aa4425112550c2f539aa Çevrimiçi gizlilik bildirimimizi okuyun: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x041f Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattressi Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Sorunlu Olay Adı: APPCRASH Uygulama Adı: DCS.exe Uygulama Sürümü: 1.2.6.17746 Uygulama Zaman Damgası: 5225b96f Hata Modülü Adı: [b]uh1_protect.dll[/b] Again, the uh1_protect.dll. I'm seeing this every time I crash and many others seem to be seeing it too. I wonder how many people who own the Huey [i]don't[/i] get this crash. I think it might be the Huey DRM which is causing this. Which, as I've said before, would further ingrain my hatred for the DRM used on DCS (the DRM is the sole reason I held off buying DCS products for so long). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 29, 2013 ED Team Share Posted September 29, 2013 Again, the uh1_protect.dll. I'm seeing this every time I crash and many others seem to be seeing it too. I wonder how many people who own the Huey don't get this crash. I think it might be the Huey DRM which is causing this. Which, as I've said before, would further ingrain my hatred for the DRM used on DCS (the DRM is the sole reason I held off buying DCS products for so long). Are you getting this while flying the Huey or not? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattressi Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Are you getting this while flying the Huey or not? I'm usually flying my Su-25, but I get this error when flying everything, not just the Su-25. I've got the Huey module installed and have it activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) I'm usually flying my Su-25, but I get this error when flying everything, not just the Su-25. I've got the Huey module installed and have it activated. there's a number of threads about this same issue. So its obvious that the Team is not working together to report this on there whiteboard.:thumbup: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114527 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=113264 Edited September 29, 2013 by Mastiff " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) another crash another crash windows has report; log files do not. Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: AppHangTransient Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: DCS.exe P2: 1.2.6.17746 P3: 5225b96f P4: unknown P5: unknown P6: unknown P7: unknown P8: P9: P10: Attached files: These files may be available here: Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: fb7e0018-28ed-11e3-b33c-c86000287612 Report Status: 1 Edited September 30, 2013 by Mastiff " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarDa Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) so is 1.2.6 broken? C++ runtime error That's all very impressive, but what good is it if so many people can't use it due to instability issues? SB11 Do you want to see the bug fixed or do you just want to whine about DCS not being 100% stable on 100% of the different PCs out there? Edit: I see now that there might have been a slight misunderstanding on my part. Sorry about that. Edited September 29, 2013 by RagnarDa DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antorian Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Errors can't be fixed without good data on what is causing them. Yes, I've had more stability issues with this last patch but ED is aware of the issues. To find solutions error reporting is the most constructive thing us users can do. Windows 10 Intel Core i5 4670k CPU 3.4 GHz 16GB RAM MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog TrackIR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 29, 2013 ED Team Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'm usually flying my Su-25, but I get this error when flying everything, not just the Su-25. I've got the Huey module installed and have it activated. Interesting, Can you try unisntalling the Huey and playing without it? I have the Huey and I have never gotten this error, maybe you have somethng corrupt there.... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antorian Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I was able to reproduce the C++ error. I read up on how communication requests to ATC are causing crashes when repeating and responding before the AI has a chance to respond for ATC. Add AWACS to the list. I was requesting picture repeatedly and I guess I requested at the wrong time and it crashed. I'm sure this is what is causing my crashes. Windows 10 Intel Core i5 4670k CPU 3.4 GHz 16GB RAM MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog TrackIR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarDa Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 To me it sounds like there is at least two different bugs, one related to comms and one related to the Huey or something else. DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarDa Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You that experience these random crashes, do you have a overclocked CPU? DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antorian Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Nope. System is normal temps and stable and not overclocked. But to be fair I think I nailed down the cause for my crashes. Edited September 30, 2013 by Antorian Windows 10 Intel Core i5 4670k CPU 3.4 GHz 16GB RAM MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog TrackIR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gate-5 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Interesting, Can you try unisntalling the Huey and playing without it? I have the Huey and I have never gotten this error, maybe you have somethng corrupt there.... It happens when flying something else than Huey too. I didnt try uninstalling the Huey-Module only, but it definitely still crashes after a complete redownload / reinstallation of all modules: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1873538&postcount=28 For me it definitely seems coms related, but in kind of a random way. I was not able to nail it down so far, but as soon as I use coms (without requesting stuff twice or similar) its a matter of time until the game closes. It also crashes without using coms at all, but this might be becuase of the automatic reply of the ATC when starting up and taxi. Unfortunatley the error message often pops up "behind" the DCS screen and I cannot see the error. Since MP s really messed up, I played some SP recently and had no problems with runtime errors at all. Edited September 30, 2013 by Gate-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 30, 2013 ED Team Share Posted September 30, 2013 It happens when flying something else than Huey too. I didnt try uninstalling the Huey-Module only, but it definitely still crashes after a complete redownload / reinstallation of all modules: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1873538&postcount=28 For me it definitely seems coms related, but in kind of a random way. I was not able to nail it down so far, but as soon as I use coms (without requesting stuff twice or similar) its a matter of time until the game closes. It also crashes without using coms at all, but this might be becuase of the automatic reply of the ATC when starting up and taxi. Unfortunatley the error message often pops up "behind" the DCS screen and I cannot see the error. Since MP s really messed up, I played some SP recently and had no problems with runtime errors at all. I have not seen this crash, of course the comms one I can reproduce, and ED is working on the fix, but I think that people seeing reference to the Huey may just be an irrelevant part of the crash message, but I dont know enough about it to say for sure. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gate-5 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Just had another crash, but in single player now. I wanted to fly this A-10C mission: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1813679&postcount=6 . Once in the game, I was only able two switch on battery and inverter and it crashed about 10 seconds into the mission. After the crash the game returned to the main DCS menu. I just started the mission again and no crash so far... I'll report if it was fine. EDIT: Mission didnt crash the second time, but no radio coms. Second mission I get this kind of problem... this is all messed up, Ill wait for 1.2.7 :(. me.log and dcs.log are in the attachment. Problemsignatur: Problemereignisname: APPCRASH Anwendungsname: dcs.exe Anwendungsversion: 1.2.6.17746 Anwendungszeitstempel: 5225b96f Fehlermodulname: uh1_protect.dll Fehlermodulversion: 5.70.46.4 Fehlermodulzeitstempel: 5225bcb4 Ausnahmecode: 40000015 Ausnahmeoffset: 000000000002e2ee Betriebsystemversion: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3 Gebietsschema-ID: 2055 Zusatzinformation 1: da30 Zusatzinformation 2: da302a0eb92a1fc1b46caeddf6ee8cd3 Zusatzinformation 3: 4fd5 Zusatzinformation 4: 4fd53f28e4b6e176db2c27cd17a583be Logs.zip Edited October 1, 2013 by Gate-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idenwen Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Just another crash while flying the KA-50 first quick action mission "attack insurgents" Windows error reporting: Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: dcs.exe, Version: 1.2.6.17746, Zeitstempel: 0x5225b96f Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: MSVCR100.dll, Version: 10.0.40219.325, Zeitstempel: 0x4df2bcac Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000005 Fehleroffset: 0x000000000003c02a ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x250c Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01cebee1bcd15afb Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: S:\Programme\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\dcs.exe Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\Windows\system32\MSVCR100.dll Berichtskennung: 6082b157-2ad6-11e3-b6f1-e0cb4e97775b Crashlog from DCS: # -------------- 20131001-201637 -------------- C:\Windows\system32\MSVCR100.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 6891C02A 01:0003B02A 00000000 00000000 0000:00000000 6891C02A 0019F0B0 0001:0003B02A C:\Windows\system32\MSVCR100.dll memcpy()+CA F38E6475 0019F140 0000:00000000 ??0EffectHolderImpl@PSEffects@@QEAA@XZ()+1E5 F38F0075 0019F180 0000:00000000 ?getCurrentEffect@PSEffects@@YA?AV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@ed@@@std@@XZ()+325 F8EF86A1 0019F210 0000:00000000 F8EF8B5B 0019F260 0000:00000000 3F368099 0019F2F0 0000:00000000 3F36AACD 0019F350 0000:00000000 3F380A14 0019F380 0000:00000000 3F3808EB 0019F3B0 0000:00000000 3F414B38 0019F420 0000:00000000 3F416139 0019FA20 0000:00000000 3F418DAB 0019FAD0 0000:00000000 7793652D 0019FB00 0001:0001552D C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll BaseThreadInitThunk()+D 77B6C541 0019FB50 0001:0002B541 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll RtlUserThreadStart()+21 No commucations from my side involved in the whole mission. Yesterday I flew some rounds with the F-15C and there was not a single crash - maybe its a help... In dcs.log the last entry was 00109.312 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source Maybe its just a missing sound file? Edited October 1, 2013 by idenwen DCS.log entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jara4 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Just had another crash, but in single player now. I wanted to fly this A-10C mission: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1813679&postcount=6 . Once in the game, I was only able two switch on battery and inverter and it crashed about 10 seconds into the mission. After the crash the game returned to the main DCS menu. I just started the mission again and no crash so far... I'll report if it was fine. EDIT: Mission didnt crash the second time, but no radio coms. Second mission I get this kind of problem... this is all messed up, Ill wait for 1.2.7 :(. me.log and dcs.log are in the attachment. I experienced the same error message where failed module was "uh1_protect.dll" too while flying Su-25 SP. Maybe some clue/pointing to uh1 Huey module? I have UH1 Huey installed and registered either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted October 2, 2013 ED Team Share Posted October 2, 2013 Have you installed the update yet to see if that makes a difference? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jara4 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Updated, tested ca for 2 hours in singleplayer (Su-25, UH-1, A-10C) and no crash. I will continue my testing tomorrow. BTW, before game update also deleted and reinstalled Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted October 2, 2013 ED Team Share Posted October 2, 2013 Glad to hear it, let us know how it goes.... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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