Three American, Three German, One British aircraft...

[Avimimus]

It is one of those things - past American developers have largely ignored Commonwealth contributions to the war effort. In reality, about half of the bombs dropped in strategic bombing were delivered by the Commonwealth (and a bit over half the casualties).

 

Do you think the developers should strive for...

 

1) An equality between British and American aircraft variants

 

2) Including variants in proportion to their numerical presence during that period

 

3) Maximizing the quality with which the U.S. forces are modelled.

 

or

 

4) I don't care - just give me some planes

Edited October 5, 2013 by Avimimus

[cichlidfan]

:doh:

[Barrett_g]

Which is the third American plane? I only heard about the P-51 and the P-47...

 

You COULD say there are three British planes.... The Spitfire MkIX, the Thunderbolt MkII, and the Mustang MkIV.... But I see what you mean... They should have included a Tempest or a Typhoon instead of a third German plane... Or maybe even a Soviet plane...

[Altflieger]

Does anyone watch the vids? Hello anyone there?

[SimFreak]

:doh:

 

I'm going to go with slap own forehead smilie as well.... Not sure in what alternate history Brits dropped more tonnage....

[Gooseneck]

Well, there is a 109, a Dora and a 262. There is a Mustang and a Thunderbolt and maybe in the longer term a B-17.

 

And there is a Spitfire.

 

Offensively speaking, a Lancaster sounds awesome, but who would want to fly all those night-time missions, being unable to see the outside of the aircraft properly for movies and screenshots, taking eight hours or so to fly a mission?

 

But on the other hand there were Mosquitoes, and Typhoons, and Tempests, and more Mosquitoes.

 

And there were Mosquitoes. Oh, I said that already....:D

[Altflieger]

I'm going to go with slap own forehead smilie as well.... Not sure in what alternate history Brits dropped more tonnage....

Brit bombers carried more bombs? Lancasters could carry 10 000lbs bomb loads. Raf had more bombers than USAF? UK at war two years before they arrived? Don't honestly know the answer but suspect it's true.

[Gooseneck]

Brit bombers carried more bombs? Lancasters could carry 10 000lbs bomb loads. Raf had more bombers than USAF? UK at war two years before they arrived? Don't honestly know the answer but suspect it's true.

 

Yah. Wasn't going to get involved with that statement for fear of 'bananaforumitis'.

 

But 'the Brits' dropped a great deal more tonnage, if memory serves. Not researched it though, so don't jump on me neck you chaps. :)

[NineLine]

I agree, they need to add more German and US aircraft to counter the super sexiness that is the Spitfire...

[SlipBall]

The P-51 may have never been designed if not for the British specification request to North American. NAA originally designed the Mustang in response to a British request. They agreed to produce the first prototype only 4 months after signing the contract in April 1940. The Brits wanted 8 guns, what would that have been like. :smilewink:

[Altflieger]

Think we're going to need a bigger map before more planes, but the mossie would be fun, 2 merlins = twice as sexy?

[Davis0079]

Why cant we just focus on the real war.......in the Pacific......*runs and hides*....

[Gooseneck]

2 merlins = twice as sexy?

 

The man thinks like me. And I'm always right. :D

[Altflieger]

Why cant we just focus on the real war.......in the Pacific......*runs and hides*....

Doesn't a certain company have copyright on that one? With no ships or planes it'll be a bit boring. We haven't taken off yet in this one, and you're complaining?:)

[Pizzicato]

I'd love to see a DCS-level Tempest at some point, but I'm more than happy with the current plane set for the time being.

[Geronimo989]

If we went by that logic, they should scrap the western front idea altogether, and make the Russian front instead? A lot more casualties on both sides happened there, and it was more decisive to the outcome of the war.

 

Lets just be happy with what we have. Though if you ask me, I am all for more German planes :)

[Mogster]

Lancasters were used in daytime providing air support for the Normandy bridgehead. I'd love to see a DCS Lancaster but I can accept that the B17 is the better choice being used much more often in daylight.

 

The planes suggested are all worthy, hopefully the Tempest, Typhoon, Hurricane and Mosquito will be next in line for inclusion when the initial planes are complete.

[Mysticpuma]

Well they did already mention that they would be looking at the 1943 era for the Pacific....so maybe another 2-4 aircraft ( a long way down the line!).?

I'd go for a B-25, P-38, Zero and another Japanese bomber. But would love a Corsair in there :)

Also, if the map making SDK turns out to be a really good feature, maybe they will have an object/aircraft one in the future too ;)

 

Cheers, MP

[Screamadelica]

Don't forget about Australia and the Darwin Spitfires. Plenty of possibilities with Hurricanes in Burma, Singapore,etc. And lots of open water, which should make map building a little easier. Also, it's a lot warmer than the Russian Front.

[IvanK]

Don't forget about Australia and the Darwin Spitfires. Plenty of possibilities with Hurricanes in Burma, Singapore,etc. And lots of open water, which should make map building a little easier. Also, it's a lot warmer than the Russian Front.

 

 

If we get MKVC and MKVIII :)

[Geronimo989]

I wonder how hard would be to include, lets say, the G-6 version of 109, Mk 5 spit, or the Razorback p-47 later? Would it take nearly as much time as making a new aircraft?

[airdoc]

Lancasters were used in daytime providing air support for the Normandy bridgehead.

 

Absolutely.

 

We should not forget that the Lancs flew in a lot of daylight missions.

And they were the heaviest bombers in regards to loadout capacity in the ETO.

20,000 pounds is much more than the 17's 12,000.

Plus it had outstanding maneuverability for its size. It could perform a slow roll when empty.

 

But you have to love the 17. And the 24. Hell, all the heavies.

 

Let's hope it makes it sooner than later. I 'll gladly support another kickstarter just for the Fortress.

 

 

"When the Germans are bombing, allied troops take cover. When the RAF are bombing, German troops take cover. When the Americans are bombing, everybody takes cover" :)

Edited October 5, 2013 by airdoc

[Scrim]

2 merlins = twice as sexy?

 

Agreed, thus we need a C-47 before anything else! Put as many Merlin engines as can possibly fit in the cargo compartment, and dang, we got a sexy plane.

 

 

Yes, the Commonwealth did much. The Russians had to do most of the fighting in Europe, and how many of their planes do we get? That's right.

 

It's a plane sim featuring planes that are popular with a large crowd of people, not a memorial to the nations involved in the war in which the respect payed is measured in the amount of planes from certain countries.

[Geronimo989]

It's a plane sim featuring planes that are popular with a large crowd of people, not a memorial to the nations involved in the war in which the respect payed is measured in the amount of planes from certain countries.

 

True!

Though it is understandable that many people here are brits and they want their country's planes the most. I would also love to fly Typhoon and Tempest.

[Merlin-27]

How does number of bombs dropped have any bearing on which fighter planes get chosen for the sim? I think it's wise to pick the most iconic aircraft of the period and from what I can see that's exactly what they are doing. When the DCS bomber age begins... well then your argument would make more sense.