Gloom Demon Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Are there any rules or tips on how to trim the Huey? I mean some people trim her on the ground even before takeoff. I am usually trying to trim her to fly straight and level, but maybe I should trim her in a specific manner before executing certain maneuvers, like landing, for example? Edited October 7, 2013 by Gloom Demon AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzard Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Rules...hmmm just trimm how you feel comfortable. What you should do is Trim the Huey in the Hover Position for take-off and landing (Cyclic slightly down left and Rudder slightly left). During the Flight I do it like in the Shark press Trimmer - Position the Aircraft - release Trimmer. Works fine for me My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzoj Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Like Lizzard said is good advice...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloom Demon Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 Lizzard Aha! So I was doing it all wrong! I was putting the Huey in a position I wanted it to remain at and pressed the trimmer - it really didn't work very well - I will try pressing the trimmer BEFORE positioning the aircraft - thanks! AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzard Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Hi Gloom Demon, yeah you have to press the Trimmer before repositioning, because if you position the Aircraft without pressing the Trimmer, the settings would overcompensate, and your Chopper goes crazy as soon as you release the Trimmer Button. And the Trimmer just sets the general "mood" for the Chopper..so you don`t have to re-trimm everytime you change direction or pitch. I set the trimmer for a nice forward flight at 80-90 Knots and leave it there most of the Time. And for the landings I pretty much just center the Trimmer...But this is something you have to play around a bit..to find the best way for you. So learning how to Trim is get in your Chopper and play with it, until you get a feel on how it works:joystick: My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloom Demon Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 By centering the trimmer You mean turning trim off (LControl T)? AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzard Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 By centering the trimmer You mean turning trim off (LControl T)? Hi, reseting the Trimmer works also, but most likely make the Huey jump around..I just press Trimmer - move cyclic to Center while slowing down - release Trimmer - come to a hover - land Just try what works best for you My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanjaB Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Hi Gloom Demon, yeah you have to press the Trimmer before repositioning, because if you position the Aircraft without pressing the Trimmer, the settings would overcompensate, and your Chopper goes crazy as soon as you release the Trimmer Button. And the Trimmer just sets the general "mood" for the Chopper..so you don`t have to re-trimm everytime you change direction or pitch. I set the trimmer for a nice forward flight at 80-90 Knots and leave it there most of the Time. And for the landings I pretty much just center the Trimmer...But this is something you have to play around a bit..to find the best way for you. So learning how to Trim is get in your Chopper and play with it, until you get a feel on how it works:joystick: Your method is the one I use in the Mi8, but it does not work for me in the Huey. I have to move the controls and then trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzard Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Your method is the one I use in the Mi8, but it does not work for me in the Huey. I have to move the controls and then trim. whatever works best for you :) My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzoj Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Your method is the one I use in the Mi8, but it does not work for me in the Huey. I have to move the controls and then trim. Just for the heck of it, try reversing whatever you have set for Central Position Trimmer Mode. Some people have gotten unexpected results switched one way or the other. Can't hurt anything to try it out and see how it works for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay43 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Hi, reseting the Trimmer works also, but most likely make the Huey jump around..I just press Trimmer - move cyclic to Center while slowing down - release Trimmer - come to a hover - land Just try what works best for you Liking that Lizard i use trim quite often and it never even dawned on me to do it this way i am always forgetting about as i come into land well a bit less these days but occasionally i do nice tip. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzard Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Liking that Lizard i use trim quite often and it never even dawned on me to do it this way i am always forgetting about as i come into land well a bit less these days but occasionally i do nice tip. haha...yeah the biggest Problem is when you trimmed the Huey for a nice forward flight..land with that Trimmer settings and take-off with this settings again..the Huey becomes a very fast Lawn mower then:) My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloom Demon Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 Does the Huey trim affect rudder? No matter what I do - it doesn't seem to get trimmed... AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Does the Huey trim affect rudder? You can choose it does/doesn't in Options/Special/UH-1H(Mi-8 also)/Rudder Trimmer :thumbup: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloom Demon Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) Thanks Suchacz, but realistically in real life - can the rudder be trimmed in UH-1H or Mi-8? Edited October 8, 2013 by Gloom Demon AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzard Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thanks Suchacz, but realistically in real life - can the rudder be trimmed in UH-1H or Mi-8? From the Original HUEY Manual: 2 32 Force Trim System Force centering devices are incorporated in the cyclic controls and directional pedal controls These devices are installed between the cyclic stick and the hydraulic servo cylinders and between the anti torque pedals and the hydraulic servo cylinder The devices furnish a force gradient or feel to the cyclic control stick and anti torque pedals A FORCE TRIM ON OFF switch is installed on the miscellaneous control panel to turn the system on or off fig 2 6 These forces can be reduced to zero by pressing and holding the force trim pushbutton switch on the cyclic stick grip or moving the force trim switch to off So..seems like yes :joystick: My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloom Demon Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Strange that it is turned off by default, then - thanks :-) AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 so far I trim her when cruising so the rudder will reduce any left or right turning tendencies. Problem is, I have to keep my feet on the pedals and off the controls for a very long duration. I'm starting to appreciate 'Nam pilots efforts in these long flights from carriers to Vietnamese grounds. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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