Ryan Barnes Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Is there anything to be wary of when selecting a LED TV as your primary display? (Besides making sure its 1080) Are there refresh rate issues or anything I should be looking for? Edited October 10, 2013 by Ryan Barnes The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay43 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 200mhz or higher Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooph Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Im using LED monitor from Samsung and im very very happy with it. All thou i wish i have bought more than 60mhz. LED screens have a higher angle at which u can see whats being displayed. Contrast and colours are great, cant really see any difference between LCD and LED :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Barnes Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Thanks, I'm looking at triple 50" Samsung's or Vizio's. I'll keep the refresh rate above 120hz The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thick8 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) I use 3 39" TVs. The view is great. some people have made high refresh rate recommendations for TVs. unfortunately Tv's that have a higher (120+) refresh rate don't "really" have that refresh rate. The TV's refresh rate is actually 60 but it's hardware does frame doubling to help remove motion bluring. While this is kind of a cool feature when watching football or Nascar, it's pretty much worthless for anything else. If you enabled it for gaming then you would experience a noticable input lag as it takes a little time for the hardware to convert the output to the higher refresh rate. Hope this helps, John Edited October 10, 2013 by Thick8 Asus ROG C6H | AMD Ryzen 3600 @ 4.2Ghz | Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce WB 1080ti | 32Gb Crucial DDR4/3600 | 2Tb Intel NVMe drive | Samsung Odyssey+ VR | Thrustmaster Warthog | Saitek pedals | Custom geothermal cooling loop with a homemade 40' copper heat exchanger 35' in the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Barnes Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Actually, you're completely right John. I had forgot about how the TV hardware was actually drawing the additional frames. The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 KDL-55W802A sony tv Look this up bro what you need for an effective gaming tv is to have one with a very fast response time. This tv averages between 15 to 22 ms response time. Which is the fastest one tested yet. Picking one up tomorrow to replace my 55 inch samsung 6420, which has a noticeable slow response time. Especially in dark or shadowy areas. Ill post my findings tomorrow after i get the sony up and running on the a10c :). Yes granted compared to my 27 inch asus monitor which has a 1ms response time, may sound slow but trust me for a big ol tv its blazing fast. I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Barnes Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the reply, I'll use that info! BTW, Vizio has a 50" LED for $650 with an 8ms response time :) http://store.vizio.com/e500ia1-1.html Edited October 10, 2013 by Ryan Barnes The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 nice good find never looked at or heard of that one seems like a great deal I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Barnes Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 My friend has 24 Vizio TVs in his sports bar and they have been on about 17 hours a day for the last few years and hasn't replaced one yet. The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Barnes Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just looked up the 42" Vizio model I have here as my second monitor on my iMac and it's 6.5ms. The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkodey Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 You need a TV with low display lag (which is different from response time). See this site, for a growing database of TV lag measurements: http://www.displaylag.com/ As mentioned above, the Sony KDL-55W802A is amongst the best, and is the TV I bought myself a few months back. Very happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Barnes Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Great resource, thanks! The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 rkodey, i just picked up the sony 55 802a. you have any recommended settings for pc use ie dcs? If thats what you use it for also? Sorry for my incorrect terminology was reading cnet review on best game tvs I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 well i have my main profile settings on this tv at Game Original, it originally defaulted to Graphics mode. I do know you will get the fastest response time or less lag in game mode. This is my first Sony tv so very new to its terminology and such. First 30 min impression is thank god it is awesome and way way faster than the samsung 6420 i had. I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkodey Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 rkodey, i just picked up the sony 55 802a. you have any recommended settings for pc use ie dcs? If thats what you use it for also? Sorry for my incorrect terminology was reading cnet review on best game tvs both Game and Graphics mode have "Display Speed Preference" turned on, so my assumption is that both are basically the same. I use: Game Original, Backlight 6, Pict 90, Birght 50, Color 58, Hue G2, Warm 1, Sharp 50, and everything else 0 or Off, except for Display Speed Preference which is On. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 works great thanks I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Just a heads up, with this tv you can do the 3dvision edid hack that allows it to be looked at by computer and nvidia video card as a passive 3dvision screen. I am enjoying dcs in full glory 3d via nvidia 3dvision now. Way better than the 3dtv 3d nvidia makes you use with hdtv. Good score !! I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHawthorne Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) There are only two things I'd be weary of because they are priorities with whatever LCDs I'd buy. They'd need to be able to be debezeled and they'd need to be able to turn off any HDMI signal processing engine they have to minimize latency. Edited October 14, 2013 by BHawthorne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tothesky Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I am using a KDL32xbr6 Good enough and never a let down on 1080p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Barnes Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 How do you debezel without breaking something? Are certain TVs more hackable than others? The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHawthorne Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 How do you debezel without breaking something? Are certain TVs more hackable than others? Yes, it's not for the faint of heart. Many people at WSGF do debezzling on regular LCD displays. HDTVs are just big LCDs with a tuner in them. There is still bezel on them it's just it's the metal frame of the screen caseless -- which tends to significantly make the bezel size smaller. The main thing I would suggest is not to try it on the glossy screen tv's. They're not configured to debezel the case like people need to be able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadwell Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 LED = the backlight LED monitors are the same as any other LCD monitor, TV's are exactly the same as any other LCD monitor too... what you need to do, to determine the quality of monitor is see how many pixels per inch the monitor has, how good it's refresh rate is, if there's any ghosting, that kind of thing... but there is NO difference between a LED monitor and any other LCD based on the fact its LED backlit alone. a 24" monitor at 1920x1080 will look nicer than a 50" monitor at 1920x1080 because the 24" monitor has more pixels per inch, so to get the same quality out of the 50" monitor u need to stand so far back away that it doesn't look any bigger than the 24" My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Barnes Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 LED TV vs. Monitor But I'd rather have three 50" screens than three 24" screens even at the same resolution. The pixel density isn't going to be as high but the immersion factor would be off the charts. The best weathered A-10C skins for download HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 it's all about native resolution and dotpitch. TV's also have built in overscan, PC Monitors usually dont. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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