Legioneod Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) You will have to get to 30,000 feet to claim that. Down low it will be a struggle against 190D and 109K. That does not mean that the jug is helpless, but those two are clearly superior and it is up to the pilot skill to compensate for that. It should handle the 190A8 quite well though. The P-47D30 entered service when nearly all P-47s were being replaced by P51Ds in the 8th AF. It was meant to act as a fighter-bomber. 56th FG, the last fighter group in the 8AF to use Jugs as escort fighters till the end of the war (and were fighting 109K and 190D) were overboosting their P47Ds to the level that made them equivalent to P47M. Not even 30k, more like 25k or even less depending on what boost we get. The 8th AAF was using 70" as standard for it's P-47s during Normandy and later. It gave it a large performance increase of around 444mph at 21,000ft. Edited April 30, 2020 by Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrett_g Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Maybe if you can get 4 or 5 P-47’s together, load up 3 500lb bombs each, climb to 30k and head towards their runway. Either they stay low and get bombed, or climb to fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchforusthefoxes Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 the jug is looking so good! I hope for the pre-orders soon! TAKE MY MUNEEE!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Yeah ! And the Mossie while they're at it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIN8II Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 How do I upload cash? Please take my money ED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco.bernardi Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Anytime someone complains about fps you can bet they use VR. I get high fps all the time but I have no interest in VR. If you try to flight with a VR...you will never flight again without one! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I doubt it. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco.bernardi Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 :thumbup:Ah, that kind of animation would be way to much for our PCs right now. But i would love to see ammo truck and fuel truck, power truck driving up to your plane if requested any of this, not an instant repair,refuel,rearm. And number of trucks should be limited per airfield so you cant' rearm refuel 5 planes at the same time. That kind of traffic on airfield would be neat. IMO +1:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseJames38 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I do enjoy the new screen shots of the P-47, and like most cant wait for the release. I have been reading into some of the P-47 flight manuals and one of the notes say not to run the turbo rpm past redline. Sadly in the photos ED released of the P-47 there is no redline for the turbo. Or a placard stating what the max rpm is for the turbo. Yet all the other gauges has operating limit bands in place. In fact in the manual I have seen the photo of the gauge cluster and it has a big green arc for the operating range of the Turbo with a placard stuck to the glass. And the photo I am looking at lists at the bottom "Figure 38 Instrument panel P-47D-30" From what I have read the Max RPM for the turbo is 22,000 RPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduro14 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Most placards if i remember correctly are mounted by your left and or right hip similar to p51 Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) Thus is my point as stated in another thread. No one in this community that knows me knows that i yearn for the Jug so much, but what annoys me is this, yes those Jug screen shots look amazing but simple shit like the cockpit lights and safety catch on the stick in the D9 dont work properly yet (dont get me started on the engine) what you guys really need to realize is it takes 2 sides to fight a war, and tbh its why stuff like this is pushing some amazing pilots towards the cartoon that is IL2. DCS this needs to stop, if you want the best then you need to provide the best on both sides. Edited May 2, 2020 by Brigg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I do enjoy the new screen shots of the P-47, and like most cant wait for the release. I have been reading into some of the P-47 flight manuals and one of the notes say not to run the turbo rpm past redline. Sadly in the photos ED released of the P-47 there is no redline for the turbo. Or a placard stating what the max rpm is for the turbo. Yet all the other gauges has operating limit bands in place. In fact in the manual I have seen the photo of the gauge cluster and it has a big green arc for the operating range of the Turbo with a placard stuck to the glass. And the photo I am looking at lists at the bottom "Figure 38 Instrument panel P-47D-30" From what I have read the Max RPM for the turbo is 22,000 RPM.18000 man… :doh: if you didn't already know that by now you're probably poorly prepared for the P-47 release… just saying… :music_whistling: :lol: :lol: :lol: S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndytotheD Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 And as long as you’re not flying above 25,000 (dependent on weather) it shouldn’t be an issue anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 18000 man… :doh: if you didn't already know that by now you're probably poorly prepared for the P-47 release… just saying… :music_whistling: :lol: :lol: :lol: S! Max RPM for turbo will be 22k System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Max RPM for turbo will be 22kIt was just a joke mate :D . But I believe 18000 was published before around here. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 20000/22000 20k/22k speed limit System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmirkingGerbil Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Worth the wait, think we are at 6 years now as a Kickstarters when it first came out under a different umbrella. I will take what they drop in and be damn glad for it. EA, is EA (if that is first phase), and I will fly her per the manuals and note any findings. Their really is no comparison to "other" titles and being "driven" to them. DCS is sublime in it's immersion and EA will just be our chance to help improve it. Really looking forward to contributing anyway I can, and learning this module when she drops. Thanks DCS/ED, a long road, but worth it. :thumbup: Pointy end hurt! Fire burn!! JTF-191 25th Draggins - Hawg Main. Black Shark 2, A10C, A10CII, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Mig-15, Mig-19, Mig-21, P-51, F-15, Su-27, Su-33, Mig-29, FW-190 Dora, Anton, BF 109, Mossie, Normandy, Caucasus, NTTR, Persian Gulf, Channel, Syria, Marianas, WWII Assets, CA. (WWII backer picked aircraft ME-262, P-47D). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 How is it with ED's EA pre-orders. If they release EA pre-order, it takes 1-2 months before releasing EA. Am i right? System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapi Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I think (hope) that P-47 is going to be EA without preorder, i.e. available immediately. Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast! (Ken Gatward before his solo Beaufighter mission 1943)See vid here HW: i7-12700K, 32 GB RAM, MB PRO Z690-A DDR4 , GTX 3080, LCD UltraWQHD (3440x1440) G-SYNC 120Hz,Tobii Eye Tracker 5, VKB Gunfighter III (KG12 WWII), MFG Crosswind, AuthentiKit Throttle & Trims, Windows 11 64-bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduro14 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Jug is releasing this month, presumably after the sales, and good chance will be same day release and no pre order like some past modules. Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Jug is releasing this month, presumably after the sales, and good chance will be same day release and no pre order like some past modules. How can you be so sure about that, no one has posted any release date yet nor release type too(pre order or not pre order). System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Kind of sad if it's released as EA after all these years. I'll buy it but still...... Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Kind of sad if it's released as EA after all these years. I'll buy it but still...... It is 100% that every new module will have EA state. Question is pre-order or not pre-order. Additional to this EA can make appearance in OB, so it can make release date much closer, then w/o EA. System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Where is that stated? It seems they're holding off releasing the Jug until it's done. Why does it need EA? That doesn't mean it won't get fixes. Even the A-10C gets those. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) Where is that stated? It seems they're holding off releasing the Jug until it's done. Why does it need EA? That doesn't mean it won't get fixes. Even the A-10C gets those. Every module will have EA because it must end up in Open Beta first to finish full testing, So can move on to stable version.Even when module will be 100% done still have to be public tested in order to rule out any bugs, missed in closed testing.As we already know, some open beta bugs can be quite severe, not fitting in to stable version at all. We have plenty cases, when developer is not using OB model, then finally all users end up being OB testers any way, and ppl have to wait for fix patches so they can play game anyway.Some games loose all player base before fix patch happens. When i launch new OB DCS version i expect bugs. Edited May 4, 2020 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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