Thanks rob10, I did reset the windows calibration to default as per a Thrustmaster recommendation. Did not seem to help, the windows game controller app still indicated they're reversed and in game was reversed also (the invert axis option had no effect). There's something not quite right - I disconnected the throttle and stick, shut down, restarted, shut down, reconnected to a different set of usb's, restarted, windows calibration settings still were reversed but in game (DCS Ah64d, and A10CII) now work as they are supposed to. Got to believe there might be something wrong with the windows app. Again, thanks, I'm back in the air.