Tailstrike

@ robertnegentienhonderddrieentachtig, ........dude! You've made your statement for now and do not fall in repetition! Snap out of it and stop talk condescending, grossly and asocial to people who discus matter to give their contribution in a positive meant starting point with the confidence that people of BST, ED and DCS will take in consideration! (already updated the FM), (already replied to what was stated!)..... Okay!..... So that is cleared! The one and only "nitpicker" is obvious you who lives in a illusion counting what bothers you! Your tone setting is what i think absurd, inappropriate and vulgar, perhaps it has to do something with your education! If you are so happy then don't download the final product and updates and stick with the first beta version and remain in illusions for ever! In my point of view you do not have the mental capacity to judge people! Your behavior is like an adolescent, grow up! If you have constructive criticism for the subject, please do reply civilly in a substantiated maner, otherwise *******. take that into consideration ....... Now back to the subject gentlemen and robrt, Got nice little pictures, An example how it is done in 3DSMax !!! Source: http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-boeing-ah-64d-apache-longbow/642300 I am aware about the billion polygons count etc... for simulation but it looks nice. @ Sundowner.pl By the way Solidworks evolved gigantically over a period of time. (it is not 2003 anymore) Thanks for your contributions! -TailStrike-

Well thanks Krebs20 for your reply on the subject. I appriciate your reaction very much also your explaination. I am aware that you and the others of "the team" have enough information about an aircraft to model by you. First again it is not my intension to hurt someone's feelings about there skills in what they do for hobby, education or for a living. I was in hypothesis that this chopper was modeled in CAD by a program like autodesk inventor or dassault Systèmes and later rendered by some kind of program 3D Smax, cinnema 4D or something like that. I do not know what kind of requirements was associated to create the Huey for simulation. I think it had to be very special. Something unic, never done before, never the less obviously. As a reaction i provide you more detailed information to your reply: 1.) obvious clear, however: Quote: "*Also there are spacers/gaps between the hub and the two blade holders on the axe.(vertical arrows at the center)" A: So not: ------Blade/Grip/ (spacer) /Hub/ (spacer) /Grip/Blade---- but ---------Blade/Grip/(PitchBallanceAssembly/Hub/(PitchBallanceAssembl/Grip/Blade---------- more together so that the 2 grips and hub become more or less one peace. PitchBallanceAssemblyplate bolted on the Grip opposite of the Blade fixation. (.....obvious make a thicker spacer....has olso a render problem because it has different colors due to the liveries.) 2.) Quote: "I think the Gearbox is fairly detailed. I was working on it today IRL. Whats is missing?" A: For you i serious hope not any part, please do check it again! :helpsmilie: For the BST-huey i think more detailed castings and washers and bolts, not that monochronic dark green. The Tailrotor itself is OK! 3.) No not about the wheels, besides this chopper is on his skids, but that's is not important. Of course you are right about fuel, weight etc. In this picture you can see i draw a horizontal line, parralel on the driveshaft of the tailboom. The mainshaft is right angled on it only to indicate it is right-angled. I can prove with more pictures on the ground and in the air as in drawings but you can discover that for yourself. besides in your DCS uh-1h Flightmanual page 22 you have a beautiful picture drawn cut trough in length explain drivetrain (rotor, mainshaft, engine and taildrive explaination in seven numbers) This picture shows that the main rotorshaft is richt-angled on to the horizontal tailrotor driveshaft on the tailboom. :D Quote: "The model was created from blueprints and maintenance manuals. Also from the tester's private photos taken for BST by request. I have over 5 GB of information I uploaded for them. Trust me when I tell you, BST and ED have better information sources than the internet can provide." A: Well all i can tell is perhaps it was to much information all of this and forgot and where totaly hypnotized of the 5GB's! :doh: 4.) A: Made my statement on 13-5-2013, post #33 page 4, I shall explain this more; Please read my comment and watch "How Bell Helicopter was born" part 1! Brilliant Mr. Arthur Young discovered on his model the stabilizer bar and the effect on his modelaircraft and build later on the 'Big one's' Ship one and two. What i wanted to make evident is this effect of this stabilisation transmitted to the mainrotor. As you peek how this aircraft behave and how stable it hover and when he tries to disrupt its hover you can see later on in this movie in part 4 he does the same with the big one obvious at this point it is to much stable for forward flight and make changes and adjustments to make it right. When you observe real close you see the steadyness of the rotor in space of the models and is also to much stable by the imput of the flyingwheel and stabilizer on the big one. The fuzelage is also quiet in behavior. In this clip you can see pretty much cyclic input on the ground, the fuselage will stay in position, rotor is flaping around i am not discussing mastbumping here but only teetering of the rotor by input of the cyclic. Obvious 04:15 > 05:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm8iV_uiBsI :pilotfly: Take advice: a hinge can not transmit a moment/torque, every door would come off into your hands. To simulate all of this that is the Trick of the design of the programm where you can imput perhaps real flightdata of aircraft or/ and RL pilots can adjust there findings and conclusions to compare all of this with data from real aircraft. They already have that experience, they can be very helpful about this. I have noticed there was already an update to the Flightmodel so that is an step forward. :thumbup: I hope i was clear enough, Thanks for your attention.:book: @sundower , Thanks for good comments in this thread and on this forum. I hope the devteam take it in consideration. About 3D scanning, it is posible. Someone wo also read this idea can move a step forward and help developers out. However i think it is possible to draw in Solidworks, Catia or Inventor with real dimensions and translate it perhaps and then import in 3DS Max to do animations and who knows what and do rendering maybe also with assistance of Cinnema 4d to create nice models. Krebs20 has access to all dimensions. Sorry to mention here on this forum but as an example, CeraSim has awesome Bell Models 212, 412, 222's created for FSX beautifully nice rendered to. Everybuddy thanks for the replies, ;) -Tailstrike-

Oh boy! lot of views and reply's. Thanks gentlemen for that. I don't have english as native language, forgive me for mistakes. It is not my intension to hurt somebodys feelings with my statements or hairsplitting nitpicking talk. I have high expectations DCS has to offer. Did not know they don't draw in cad 3d. I supposed they did, sorry for that, it is explained to me. When i saw the huey startup video i had the "bug", realy guys you got me. Great job! liked it and still do. But as i looked more closer, i was very surprized. If i come to this point i would not bring it out to public in this stage. I do realize it is lots of hard work and don't let be disapointed by some guy like me knocking at your door. I let BST make there own decision about this baby and only hope they take comments positive, good or bad. They are great and talented people together that can blow this sim to a great succes. (bigger you can imagine) I am not a coder or programmer but with today's technology i think it is possible @ AlphOneSix About semi-rigid or rigid rotorhead systems I related that only to the KA-50 rotorhead, (i don't have information of this Kaman helicopter) Obvious the huey is a teetering rotor. " It means it can not transmit torque to the main shaft!" ; Is wrong explained by me. When i say; Transfering momentum to the mainshaft by the rotor when it flap (obvious this can't because it is a teetering rotor). Please pay attention 06:07. It is "December 1939" in this movie. Where "Bell Helicopter" was born! Hope this movie explain better then i do. :smartass: @ Hueyman To me, it is a icon! ;) Everybuddy thanks for the comments and reply's, :D -Tailstrike-

@AlphaOneSix Like what? Do you fly helicopters in RL? -TS-

@ ericoh Yeh, it's ok lol :lol: First post is sick, but i had to post it. DCS is a good sim and has a high quality standards. I came to these conclusions suddenly. I don't count rivets. But compare to this there are options for improvements. I know there are limits to a number of polygons and stuff like that. But a Huey is not that difficult like a KA-50 or something like that. I studied helicopters since i was 14 years old alot of years ago. I know it is hard. I know how they work. Thanks for the replys gentlemen @ Tusler Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff ! LOL :thumbup: :megalol: !!!! funny!!! thanks Skouras -Tailstrike-

I don't hit. Belsimtek say that they have a super realistic kind of chopper licenced by Bell. First I discovered the backward cranked mainshaft. When i looked closer i discovered more and more, besides of the FM :pilotfly: I just showed them so they can improve these things. What is wrong about that? They ask 50 bucks for this not me. I've got no hard feelings about this. @ Innerloop Thank you! @ Belsimtek and DCS Thank you to for this Simulator!

@joey45 No it is. It's for sale Robinson R22 B is! :megalol: -Tailstrike-

My comments on the Belsimtek Huey! 1.) The main rotor head is not right detailed in my opinion. From left to right i'll give comments based on the 2 pictures: * There are spaces between bladeholders and blades . Blades are to thin at the root. (two horizontal arrows) *There should be space between bladeroot and end of the hubaxis in the bladeholder. (left vertical arrow) *Also there are spacers/gaps between the hub and the two blade holders on the axe. (vertical arrows at the center) *The corner of the root of the trailingedge of the blade is also not right done, again spacing between edge and holder, blade should be thicker at the edge to fit the clamp of the rod. By the way, one is comming loose of the blade! (red circle) 2.) Tail gearbox and main gearbox are not detailed. However tailhub is good! 3.) The main rotorshaft is tilted backwards: The fuselage nose should rise litle bit more and the main rotorshaft should come more forward until it is right-angled on the skids/ground and not on the doorsliderrails (yellow lines). Also the skids are cast in concrete! O, and please let us choose to a straight exaust-pipe? Probably used pictures from the media like this! Wich are not always done right. 4.)Also the huey hangs at the hub not dangle somewhere in between. This (Huey) goes everywhere. The rotor-system is not a semi-rigid or a rigid rotor system like the KA-50. It has a seesaw rotor. It means it can not transmit torque to the main shaft! So, is it worth $ 50,- bucks, i leave that on to you. :smartass: If you ask me i say my 2 cents on this is enough for now. Come on! I'll think for paying 50 bucks ED/ DCS can do it much better. Couple hours on internet gives enough information to design a model realistic. There are plenty reallife Huey pilots that can improve the flightmodel realistic and not say ohh. this is good, this is awesome wow, yeh...... ok! I have not the feeling that this is a licenced Bell Textron 205 UH :D But it is BETA we shall see what comes. Till now well done BELSIMTEK :thumbup: -Tailstrike-