Demon

Yes I know it might sound like a "first world problem" but I really dislike the rotational slop that comes from having an unmapped twist function. I looked at all the sticks and now I just have to decide between the CH Fighter Stick, the Sidewinder FFB2, or a full on TM Warthog. Thanks guys

Hey guys So sadly, my faithful Logitech Attack 3's useable lifetime is coming to an end. It's worked great for more than 10 years, but the center is starting to become sloppy, and the sensors are a little finicky. I want a new stick but I'm having a problem: pretty much every single flightstick in production uses a twist rudder. This is problematic for me because I use rudder pedals, and having a twist grip is both an annoyance and completely useless. However, I'm not yet willing to sink the ~$500 for a TM Warthog because I need a stick that I can use on other modules such as UH-1H, F-15C, and Falcon 4 BMS (requiring a lighter stick), and I don't play DCS A-10 quite enough to buy multiple sticks. So my question to you guys is, do any of you know of a rotationally-fixed flight stick currently in production (and preferably under $80)? I can't for the life of me find any sticks still in production that don't have a rudder axis, which is really frustrating. All the old sticks (Microsoft Sidewinder 2, Logitech Attack 3, Logitech G940, etc) had fixed rotation, but all the new fancy (overpriced) Saitek sticks seem to twist. Cheers

Sorry for the double reply up there, I thought the first time it didn't work. No, I'm not overclocking anything. I've done a complete reinstall, but it's still crashing on startup :/ Here is my DxDiag in case it's of any help: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=7767039AB33D4B92&id=7767039AB33D4B92%21115 Here is the log again (although I don't think anything changed): === Log opened UTC 2014-07-30 18:52:07 00000.000 INFO EDCORE: createSerialQueue IOQueue 00000.003 INFO VFS: Using 'Saved Games': "C:\Users\Zander\Saved Games" 00000.048 UNKNOWN main: locale: en EN 00000.125 UNKNOWN main: me_db_api creation started 00000.338 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/F-86/entry.lua 00000.339 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/F-86/F-86.lua 00000.340 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/F-86/Views.lua 00000.340 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/entry.lua 00000.341 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/MiG-15bis.lua 00000.341 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/Views.lua 00000.342 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/entry.lua 00000.342 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/Entry/2 00000.343 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/Entry/3 00000.343 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/Entry/03_Views.lua 00000.343 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/Entry/b 00000.345 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MQ-9 Reaper/entry.lua 00000.345 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/WWII Units/entry.lua 00000.347 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/WWII Units/FW-190D9.lua 00000.347 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/WWII Units/Views.lua 00000.348 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/F-15C/entry.lua 00000.348 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/F-15C/FM/F15/config.lua 00000.348 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/Su-25T/entry.lua 00000.349 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/TF-51D/entry.lua 00000.350 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/TF-51D/TF-51D.lua 00000.350 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/TF-51D/Views.lua 00000.351 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/tech/CombinedArms/entry.lua 00000.352 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/A-10A/entry.lua 00000.352 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/A-10C/entry.lua 00000.352 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/F-15C/entry.lua 00000.352 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/F-86/entry.lua 00000.352 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Flaming Cliffs/entry.lua 00000.353 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Ka-50/entry.lua 00000.353 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Mi-8MTV2/entry.lua 00000.353 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/P-51D/entry.lua 00000.353 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Su-25A/entry.lua 00000.354 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Uh-1H/entry.lua 00000.354 UNKNOWN main: PLUGINS START------------------------------------------------- 00000.354 UNKNOWN main: plugin: F-86F Sabre AI by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.354 UNKNOWN main: plugin: MiG-15bis AI by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.354 UNKNOWN main: plugin: MiG-21Bis by Leatherneck Simulations applied 00000.357 UNKNOWN main: plugin: World War II AI Units by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.357 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.357 UNKNOWN main: plugin: F-15C applied 00000.357 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Su-25T by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: TF-51D Mustang by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Combined Arms by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: A-10A by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: A-10C Warthog by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: F-86F Sabre by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Ka-50 Black Shark by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Mi-8MTV2 Hip by Belsimtek applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: P-51D Mustang by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Su-25A by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: plugin: UH-1H Huey by Belsimtek applied 00000.358 UNKNOWN main: PLUGINS DONE-------------------------------------------------- 00000.365 UNKNOWN main: ./MissionEditor/data/scripts/unitsclasses.lua loaded 00000.370 UNKNOWN main: ./MissionEditor/data/NewMap/classifier.lua loaded 00000.372 UNKNOWN main: me_db_api creation complete 00000.396 ERROR VFS: add_location {"My Missions", "C:\Users\Zander\Saved Games\DCS\Missions\"}: path already added as "My Missions" 00000.404 UNKNOWN main: GUI Error: [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: renderer->initialize failed GUI debug.traceback: stack traceback: [C]: ? [C]: in function 'CreateEdgeRender' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: in function 'createGUI' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:344: in main chunk stack traceback: [C]: ? [C]: in function 'CreateEdgeRender' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: in function 'createGUI' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:344: in main chunk 00000.404 ALERT LUACOMMON: Error: GUI Error: [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: renderer->initialize failed GUI debug.traceback: stack traceback: [C]: ? [C]: in function 'CreateEdgeRender' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: in function 'createGUI' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:344: in main chunk === Log closed.

Yeah I suspected that might be the case well I'll go completely reinstall and we'll see if that fixes it.

It was a 900mb download if that helps. Is there a version/update history somewhere?

I'm not exactly sure. It was a 900mb download if that helps. Is there a place to find update history?

My graphics driver is up to date I believe but I can try updating it again. Any other drivers I should try to update? Intel Core i5-3450 CPU @ 3.10 GHz 8.00GB RAM NVidia Geforce GTX 650 GPU GZ-Z77-D3H Motherboard 750W PSU Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Yeah, I've done that a few times.

Nope. Didn't even know modding was possible in this game tbh :P

Interesting. Do you know what caused it and how I might fix it?

Hey guys It's been a while since I've played DCS. Today I updated the game for the first time in a while. Update seemed to go fine. However, once the update was complete the game crashed before it could even start (DCS World has stopped working, before I even saw anything). I've pasted my me.txt log below. === Log opened UTC 2014-07-30 14:15:58 00000.000 INFO EDCORE: createSerialQueue IOQueue 00000.002 INFO VFS: Using 'Saved Games': "C:\Users\Zander\Saved Games" 00000.020 UNKNOWN main: locale: en EN 00000.039 UNKNOWN main: me_db_api creation started 00000.255 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/F-86/entry.lua 00000.256 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/F-86/F-86.lua 00000.257 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/F-86/Views.lua 00000.257 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/entry.lua 00000.258 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/MiG-15bis.lua 00000.259 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/Views.lua 00000.259 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/entry.lua 00000.259 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/Entry/2 00000.260 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/Entry/3 00000.260 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/Entry/03_Views.lua 00000.260 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21/Entry/b 00000.262 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/aircraft/MQ-9 Reaper/entry.lua 00000.262 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/WWII Units/entry.lua 00000.264 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/WWII Units/FW-190D9.lua 00000.264 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./CoreMods/WWII Units/Views.lua 00000.265 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/A-10C/entry.lua 00000.267 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/Su-25T/entry.lua 00000.268 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/TF-51D/entry.lua 00000.269 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/TF-51D/TF-51D.lua 00000.270 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/TF-51D/Views.lua 00000.270 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/Uh-1H/entry.lua 00000.271 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./mods/aircrafts/Uh-1H/Views.lua 00000.271 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/tech/CombinedArms/entry.lua 00000.272 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/A-10A/entry.lua 00000.272 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/A-10C/entry.lua 00000.272 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/F-15C/entry.lua 00000.272 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/F-86/entry.lua 00000.273 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Flaming Cliffs/entry.lua 00000.273 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Ka-50/entry.lua 00000.273 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Mi-8MTV2/entry.lua 00000.273 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/P-51D/entry.lua 00000.274 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Su-25A/entry.lua 00000.274 UNKNOWN main: MOD loading: ./DemoMods/aircrafts/Uh-1H/entry.lua 00000.274 UNKNOWN main: PLUGINS START------------------------------------------------- 00000.274 UNKNOWN main: plugin: F-86F Sabre AI by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.274 UNKNOWN main: plugin: MiG-15bis AI by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.274 UNKNOWN main: plugin: MiG-21Bis by Leatherneck Simulations applied 00000.277 UNKNOWN main: plugin: World War II AI Units by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: A-10C Warthog by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Su-25T by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: TF-51D Mustang by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: UH-1H Huey by Belsimtek applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Combined Arms by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: A-10A by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: F-15C applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: F-86F Sabre by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Ka-50 Black Shark by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Mi-8MTV2 Hip by Belsimtek applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: P-51D Mustang by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: plugin: Su-25A by Eagle Dynamics applied 00000.278 UNKNOWN main: PLUGINS DONE-------------------------------------------------- 00000.283 UNKNOWN main: ./MissionEditor/data/scripts/unitsclasses.lua loaded 00000.287 UNKNOWN main: ./MissionEditor/data/NewMap/classifier.lua loaded 00000.293 UNKNOWN main: me_db_api creation complete 00000.318 ERROR VFS: add_location {"My Missions", "C:\Users\Zander\Saved Games\DCS\Missions\"}: path already added as "My Missions" 00000.326 UNKNOWN main: GUI Error: [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: renderer->initialize failed GUI debug.traceback: stack traceback: [C]: ? [C]: in function 'CreateEdgeRender' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: in function 'createGUI' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:344: in main chunk stack traceback: [C]: ? [C]: in function 'CreateEdgeRender' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: in function 'createGUI' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:344: in main chunk 00000.326 ALERT LUACOMMON: Error: GUI Error: [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: renderer->initialize failed GUI debug.traceback: stack traceback: [C]: ? [C]: in function 'CreateEdgeRender' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:251: in function 'createGUI' [string ".\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua"]:344: in main chunk === Log closed. The line: 00000.318 ERROR VFS: add_location {"My Missions", "C:\Users\Zander\Saved Games\DCS\Missions\"}: path already added as "My Missions" got my attention, but I have tried renaming my DCS user folder and it didn't help. Anybody have any idea what is happening?

I think the AI door gunners is a must, as well as more options for the loadout (including more options for door guns) I am also astounded by the knowledge of the huey a lot of people seem to have (lookin' at you, sundowner), there are some really great diagrams and photos in this thread.

cool, thanks guys I've been doing pretty similar stuff but I'll give them both a try

Does anyone know the proper technique/procedure for shutting down the engine? I just don't like landing the chopper and then ending the mission with the engine idling, I'd prefer to shut it all the way down. Is it as simple as running the startup procedure backwards, or flipping the fuel switch? thanks, Demon