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Fair enough. It seems like it would just be a relatively easy and small quality of life improvement to do for those who would just delete them anyways while avoiding the extra bandwidth usage and effort put into any extra UI etc. for a livery manager of some sort while satisfying all parties involved. I have no dog in this fight one way or the other so just throwing a suggestion out there I do feel in general for those who have horrible internet or data limits though who just wish to optimize space for whatever reason. Went ~10 years with 60 KB/s internet which was absolutely brutal and dark days indeed. Finally got good proper internet recently though so I will excitedly download any and all liveries I want in celebration haha

May have been mentioned but it seems reasonable perhaps to at least implement a method by which one could just exclude the folders containing liveries when comparing your local files against those on ED's servers when looking to update and just leave it at that. Whether it be a check box that appears giving the option when a new update is available and it asks if you want to download now or later, or as a command to throw on the end of your shortcut to the executable in the same way "update" or "repair" works for those who don't want to just keep redownloading them.

Nice, that's good to hear! :thumbup: I appreciate the update too as I was curious about sanding the inner most gimbal myself. It seems I read someone recommend doing so on a Reddit post some time ago, but it was the only time I ever saw someone mention it so I didn't take it serious enough. Sometimes it helps to hear more then one person say the same thing. I look forward to checking this out next time I take mine apart in hopes of eliminating the last little bit of stiction I experience at times which has been so elusive. It really is a shame some customers find themselves having to go through all this trouble trying to solve a mystery to get the performance we rightly expected. I love my Warthog now, but can't hide the disappointment I had for the first year or so I owned it before fixing it myself. Anyhow, hopefully this thread will compliment the other topics on Warthog stiction, and help someone else out in the future! Happy flyin!

That's interesting, so you had to sand the rectangular slit/hole on the inner most gimbal that the magnet and wire run through to stop some rubbing? I honestly never really considered that it could be rubbing enough to cause issues. It makes sense though, and pitch is what it would effect. I'll have to take a look at mine next time I take it apart! It doesn't seem like you could do any harm by opening it up a tiny bit just in case. Yeah, it seems to me that the lower gimbal that mounts to the base plate, or rubbing in the rectangular hole on the inner most gimbal as Sporg mentioned are the only places that could be responsible. At first, I too focused mainly on and suspected the two pins/plugs, but even after several sessions getting it as smooth as possible I eventually focused on the entirety of the front and back of the lower gimbal. The last time I took it apart I ended up just giving the whole of the lower gimbal another sanding, and even sanded the very top of it where the opening is just in case. It's a shame we can't get a good look at the inside when its put together to better diagnose where its catching. That's the frustrating part :hmm:

I know the frustration, buddy! I've taken apart my Warthog probably a dozen times, and spent dozens of hours staring and working on my stiction issue. I too got to where my roll axis was buttery smooth, but it would still hang up on the pitch axis. I eventually got it to an acceptable state where the stiction is almost non existent all the time. Although it seems I sometimes need to just run my joystick through the motions to spread the grease before I hop into the pit. That being said, I unfortunately could not say what in particular was the problem that was causing the stiction issue on the pitch axis as I would end up trying multiple things when I took it apart in desperate attempts to just solve the problem. There was two different things I did that I know made a noticeable difference after the sanding and re-greasing was done though: 1. If you haven't tried it yet, I would suggest removing the large centering spring that sits on top of the pressure plate, and use the smaller springs on the bottom in its place and just using it that way for a little while. Sure the centering isn't as great, but I have found it plenty good enough an never had to use dead-zones or anything afterwards. In my case, the spring was simply putting too much downward pressure on the gimbal and creating unnecessary friction. This by itself made a huge difference. 2. I found that the holes in the white plastic piece that is screwed onto the top of the pressure plate weren't lined up perfectly with the holes in the pressure plate itself so I sanded the holes open a little bit on the white plastic piece. Since it wasn't perfectly aligned, it was rubbing on the poles constantly. This wasn't as big of a problem but it did help a little bit. Hope this helps you out a bit. If your like me its all you can think about when flying an it takes away a lot of enjoyment. Thankfully I've been able to alleviate the problem over time to where its almost non-existent although I'm sure I'll take it apart again at some point to try and make it perfect.

I had the same issue's installing BS2 upgrade a while back but my BS1 copy was a digital download from Direct2Drive.com instead of owning an actual disk if that would make any difference. I tried downloading and installing BS1 through Direct2Drive and DCS World still claimed I didn't have it installed, but what did finally work was installing BS1 from a download I found online then installing BS2 upgrade through DCS World. It has been a while so I cant remember which of the two downloads finally worked for me, but I am almost positive it was this one: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/d88/KA-50.torrent Edit: If that first link doesn't work for some reason here is a Bing search with it being the first search result. Alternate link: http://www.bing.com/search?q=KA-50_1.2.16.43180.9-9.exe+download&qs=n&form=QBLH&sp=-1&pq=ka-50_1.2.16.43180.9-9.exe+download&sc=0-35&sk=&cvid=0CA1E99A4C0146098957AE8522772CF6 If not that one then it would have to be the one found in the "Previous Versions" tab under "Downloads" on their website: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/previous_versions/dcs_black_shark_english/ Unfortunately, you will need at least 1 activation left to be able to try it, or 2 if I'm wrong on the first link :music_whistling: