Frumpy Bill

TheSnark, I set up a straight flying F5 again also at 2500ft (that's the altitude in the video,) and tailed it for 6 mins at a distance of ~4nm, but it couldn't pick up it up the radar, inverting caused it to appear immediately as shown. I closed to a distance of ~0.5nm over 3 mins again nothing coming up. An extract from the manual about usage of the Radar: "The Sapphire needs three seconds to perform a full scan in search mode. When searching for targets, fly for 10-15 seconds in one direction to allow a thorough search of an illuminated volume of airspace." So I feel I was more than generous with the time given to find the target. A lot of the posts previous state it's poor low level performance, so i tried at 10000ft with a distance of ~4nm, and it popped up immediately with me in correct orientation, I inverted but failed to pick it up this time, and also noticed considerably more ground clutter on the screen than at lower altitudes (I imagine it should have less clutter at higher altitudes?) I tried again at 5000ft, again it was there without inverting and disappeared as I inverted. 4000ft the same, still there. Then 3000ft I had the results as displayed in the video again, invisible to me till I'm upside down. I not sure what conclusions can be drawn from this, but these are simply my observations. This was all tested with the F5 only, so it could be an issue specifically related to that. However iirc when the F15 was present in front of me it too appeared as I inverted the Mig.

Ok,[ame=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv-ceqRofUQ] I have made a video illustrating the point[/ame] hopefully with good enough quality to tell whats going on (downloaded OBS specifically for this, so don't know what I'm doing with it at all) It's a quick mission with whats supposed to be an F5 and an F15 flying straight, although the F-15 didn't cooperate! Hopefully this gets some attention as, correct me if I'm wrong, it shouldn't be working like that. I haven't got a video of it in multiplayer as people don't tend to be so willing to let me "test my radar@ on them :P, but you will have to take my word it happens there too.

Having never experienced using the Migs radar in the real world, I can't say how it does/should behave. So i trust you guys are correct in the information you've given. However I do feel that some of it's working in game feel very counter-intuitive, particularly the issue I described of flying inverted displaying more targets. I do tend to enjoy flying as low as I can in combat servers, so it could well be that it is modeled realistically poorly, which is just something to deal with. So if that is the case, it doesn't explain why inverting the plane produces better returns on the planes, this can be seen at 2:36 in Hadwell's first video (admittedly this is cherry picking seeing as it happened once that I noticed in ~30 mins of footage, but I've also had the experience happen on two occasions.) Wouldn't inverting cause the radar to be looking at the ground and be even more unlikely to produce a good return? I'll try to get a video of what I'm seeing a bit later today. Cheers, Niall

Chiming in on this, I don't have any video to back up my claim, but having played on the BASIS Mig21 Vs F5 server past few days, I've had immense struggle picking up planes on the radar. AWACS has confirmed target to be within 10nm and above me, pointing the nose in the direction doesn't cause them to appear though, however when flying inverted the screen fills up with targets at the same altitude as me (looking like +, which as far as I'm aware is same altitude.) This has happened only twice, but It didn't seem to be coincidence. Cheers, Niall

Trying out different AA options, after changing setting from between 8x, 16x, 8xq, and 16xq. Entering a mission caused the entire screen to be a solid turquoise colour with the sun, a cursor and labels present, it appeared to be running fine as sounds were playing and options to do stuff with cursor were available. Upon exiting the mission returning to the main screen caused it to go plain black. Closing and reopening DCS allowed the mission to be run with corrected video, but after changing the settings again the same problem arose. Cheers, Niall Logs if required: Logs.zip

Also having the same issue, after purchasing The mig21 and the Fw190 last night. Entering the module manager this afternoon prompted the download of both which was all good, both downloads were succesful and I didn't notice the log reading any issues, however when re-entering the game Fw190 wasn't present in module manager or in icon as described above. Also using latest 1.5 update.