Winney

I re edited the thing on updated Skype. Well, thats an example on how used I am to it... NO, even on the latest Skype version BS loads really slowly when on comms/phone. I thought I was on phone, but due to the restart, I wasn't anymore obviously, and forgot about that. :( Guess I do have to revert to TS or Ventrillo. Still have to check for newer sound drivers. Something I'll do tomorrow, though I'm getting hot on finding the very cure, I'm done with it for now. I 'll keep you informed on that thou TNX for the info on DCSMAX!!! ~S Winney

I know TS. With lack of knowledge of any better, I was ok with it 5, 6 years ago when we were with quite a bunch of guys. Yet the gang got smaller and smaller and we all hung out together to b*llsh*t with eachother, we played different games and most of all got tired of the push-to-talk thing as well as the crap sound quality. So, it lead to us using Skype (yes, we knew its a heavy thing and not really 'useful' for the purpose we use it, yet we do, cause we like the quality and funny enough we like the hot mic :D) It never caused issues, nor with my mates (they must've gotten the latest version me thinks) Anyway, another bugger tracked down. Took awhile and a lot of aggrevations... a hard learned lesson :smartass: ~S all Winney (so far a happy Winney :megalol:)

Tried the PE thing, I couldn't read it, I mean, like I said, I didn't (don't) know what to look for and even what I was (am) looking at. So I went the 'old school way' LOONG process, took me most of my evening :( Yet, I converged to the cause!!!!!!!!!!! SKYPE When on the computer I am just about ALWAYS on comms on skype all the time. So I'm so used to that that I hardly even notice it's running :doh: Yet this s*x b*lls bigtime, cause I use skype for comms with my mates... Just FYI ATM I'm using Skype 4.0.0.206. I am also using onboard sound on my Asus P5Q-E MB, drivers: SoundMAX 6.10.2.6480 Skype 'idle' is no problem. When on the 'phone' with someone... BS Loadtimes tripples/'quadreles'!! Any way to cure it other than NOT using Skype :smilewink:?? ~S Winney PS: I'll see if there's a newer version of both, Skype and the driver. Keep you informed on this. PS2: What is DCSMAX???? EDIT: Just did the easiest I could do, updated Skype to version 4.0.0.226. Fingers crossed, knock on wood, roll yer thumbs, ... whatever that gives ya good luck, but I tried it briefly after updating just Skype and... badaboombadabang. Nice loadtimes :) SO I guess that (already 'funny' version of) Skype seems the dang cause of all this! NO Wrong... tho it was running I wasnt on comms anymore... so... dang...

(Haven't done anything to try and trace down the problem yet, but...) Just a quick response on my end. UAC (User acces control?) is something I turned off immediately when I started using Vista. This thing got me all f*ck*d up, why is it even in there??!?! (thats a different discussion:P) Does this 'cancel' out the accessability you're talking about?? ~S Winney EDIT: Gonna do the Process Explorer thing. What am I looking at and what should I be looking for?

Much thanx to y'all, really! I was just about done with this sim really (I guess you could figure that on my intonation in my last post :smilewink:) You guys keep coming up with suggestions! Much appreciated and I think worth mentioning! So, here's: ~S Still I think it's unheard of user(s) need to go 'tweak' their system, or even download and install additional utilities to be able to run this game/sim properly (well, once it's finally done loading here, it runs fine though). I think this is even unacceptable. You almost need to be a computer geek to install and play this product :huh: No, defragging didn't help for me. I turned off pagefile/swapfile, didn't help. I 'll try and see if I can be fust to go ahead and do the 'software/hardware checks' EtherealN suggested. If still no dice... What's the story on locations to install BS on? I mean, partition/hdd wise. Yes, I have BS installed on the same partition as my OS (WinVista64). I somewhat read in between the lines this MIGHT also? be a problem??? I only got 1 hdd, divided into 4 partitions. Then, what about RAID thing? I know it's there, but that's beyond my knowledge and IF this might be the solution I need someone to guide me through this. If I have to reinstall again... I again use up another activation/deactivation, what's the story on this? ~S Winney

It's in the one topic I linked to. I got to admit it sounds too weird to be true, yet not impossible and COULD explain a lot. Like the people facing the problem, all other applications run fine, but dcs :( So me thinks this fact already throws the hdd issue right in the bin?! Then there's one way to find out any differences between d/l and boxed... Yet, I am not gonna also gonna pay for the download version. ~S Winney PS: Aren't we all missing out on something? Isn't there a configuration file which needs some tweaking or something??

Just reinstalled the whole thing hoping it would resolve the problem. but NO :cry: While my game was loading! I had enough time to dig in this forum and I've noticed there's more people facing the exact same issues. eg. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=40601 I think it's funny everyone is almost directly pointing at the hdd?!?!?!? Why's that??? Then, as for my rig goes, I got this one for only 4 months now and succeed the recommended specs. easily. Then I'm reading that the download version was coded for faster loading?!?!? WT. :huh: This will do make sense thou, since my game buddies on similar rigs got the d/l version. I feel robbed :mad: I know you guys have been helpful in finding the cure, but.... I'm loosing my temper! I don't want to wait f*****g 10 mins before I can join my buds. Like I just said, I feel robbed by buying this boxed version!!! Any of Dev.Team reading these issues and has something to say on it? ~S Winney

Well, starting the multi-player mode, they see the little splash screen in some 5-10 secs. For me, this one takes the most time, about 2 mins! And then staring at this little thing for about 3 mins. I was telling a friend of mine on comms when I started the MPicon and when I was actually in the menu, his response: "It took you that long to get to the menu???" Then in a mission when I died, and want to 'refly' again it takes me about 2 mins staring at the mission briefing screen before I enter the cockpit again. For them it's just about instantly. This aggrevates the s... out of me:joystick: I don't understand these huge loadtime differences. I don't understand what you're trying to say here?? @EtherealN: My hdd runs at 7200 and has a 32MB cache, and is far from fully stuffed (partition(s)). I could check for fragmentations, but why would it install 'fragmented'?? System seems running ok, no dodgy processes, no excessive memory usage, just 'all systems go' basically?!?! Something else maybe of interest in this case... When I crash or wanna bail, I'm getting a screenfreeze of about 3 secs????? Doesn't happen when other players in the game crash or bail and looking at them?!??! ~S Winney

~S At the very first I was scared my game wouldn't load (see here). But now I've been playing it for a few times with some mates, I come/came to notice my game takes an aweful long time to load :huh:??? The game itself (mp-mode), loading the actual mission, after hitting 'fly' and also 'refly'. takes about 5, 3, 2, 2 mins respectively (timed it :P) These mates I've been flying with have a very similar like hardware setup as I do, yet they load almost instantly on all things mentioned?!?! The only main difference is: THEY got the download version and I have the DVD version Any ideas please on what might be causing this lóóóóóóóóóng loading times??? Tnx in advance as usual :thumbup: ~S Winney System specs: Windows Vista Home Premium x64 SP1 Intel Core2Duo 8500 Nvidia GTX285 (drivers 182.50) 2x2Gigs PC2-6400 CL4 RAM DCS: Black Shark DVD, English-version

Hi EtherealN Tnx for the quick response! With the desktop thing being normal I gave the thing some more time like you somewhat proposed, and yea it works :thumbup: I wasn't familiar with the fact that BS is '2' exe files, one for the menu, one for the game. When I got into desktop I panicked. Waited for a while and still no dice. Opening taskmanager, I see dcs.exe, yet little memory use and hardly any cpu usage. Stared at it for a while, without any changes. I thought it hung up?! I lowered the eye-candy and res. for a shorter loadtime and YEA it works :doh: I 'slowly' pimped the eye-candy again and some more patience... still good :joystick: LOL, I think I was just só excited to finally have it and then falling to desktop freaked me out :music_whistling: So I guess it's falls alarm. Thanks anyway, and sry for this freaked out post. Winney PS: Game and all is installed in default directories.

Hi all, Finally I just got my hands on the disc version of Black Shark:megalol: I just finished installing it and wanted to give it a spin. I get into the menu, yet, when I want to do a training mission or just instant action... Bang, it kicks me out and I'm staring at my desktop :cry:??!?!? I see DCS.exe is still running in taskmanager. When I go to terminate it, BS' menu pops up again??? I can't fly:cry: Please anyone help me out :helpsmilie: Tnx in advance Winney System specs: Windows Vista Home Premium x64 SP1 Intel Core2Duo 8500 Nvidia GTX285 (drivers 182.50)