DCS Crash Any ideas?

hi all. I have been using DCS for a while now. and I have seemed to hit a problem with it crashing I have tried running the Direct x update in the game folder.running it without anything usb plugged in. completely uninstalled it and reinstalled it. and have run out of idea. my grphics drivers are all latest ones from my motherboard vendor. I have a fresh install of windows 8.1 my pc specs are . gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 motherboard ..intel i7 4770k 4.10 ghz 16gb crucial balistix . 2x radeon xfx 7970's

here is some errors I am getting in the logs. have done some searching but found nothing that really helps. :helpsmilie:

# -------------- 20150127-170454 --------------

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# C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 4B58440C 00:00000000

00000000 00000000 0000:00000000

4B58440C 00BDEA30 0000:00000000 DllCanUnloadNow()+25FC

4B584B24 00BDEBB0 0000:00000000 DllCanUnloadNow()+2D14

4841AD60 00BDEC00 0000:00000000 DirectInput8Create()+107F0

4841FC29 00BDEC50 0000:00000000 DllGetClassObject()+3FB9

4841F5A8 00BDEC80 0000:00000000 DllGetClassObject()+3938

48417558 00BDECD0 0000:00000000 DirectInput8Create()+CFE8

493A1D7B 00BDEDF0 0000:00000000

493A1171 00BDEE30 0000:00000000

493A6F52 00BDEEA0 0000:00000000 ??_FInputKeyAction@@QEAAXXZ()+B92

493A610C 00BDEF00 0000:00000000 ?setImmediate@ForceFeedback@@AEAAX_N@Z()+3EC

493A4DE8 00BDF090 0000:00000000 ??1Input@@AEAA@XZ()+B68

493A51EB 00BDF0D0 0000:00000000 ??1Input@@AEAA@XZ()+F6B

4840BB49 00BDF590 0000:00000000 DirectInput8Create()+15D9

493A4FBC 00BDF600 0000:00000000 ??1Input@@AEAA@XZ()+D3C

493A3DB1 00BDF6E0 0000:00000000

493B19DF 00BDF730 0000:00000000 ?initialize@Input@@SAXPEAX@Z()+9F

9CFB45B9 00BDF7E0 0000:00000000

9D07AAC2 00BDFE00 0000:00000000

9D07DBA0 00BDFE40 0000:00000000

515A13D2 00BDFE70 0000:00000000 BaseThreadInitThunk()+22

53E103C4 00BDFEC0 0000:00000000 RtlUserThreadStart()+34

# -------------- 20150127-170418 --------------

# C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 492D440C 00:00000000

00000000 00000000 0000:00000000

492D440C 007AE780 0000:00000000 DllCanUnloadNow()+25FC

492D4B24 007AE900 0000:00000000 DllCanUnloadNow()+2D14

4841AD60 007AE950 0000:00000000 DirectInput8Create()+107F0

4841FC29 007AE9A0 0000:00000000 DllGetClassObject()+3FB9

4841F5A8 007AE9D0 0000:00000000 DllGetClassObject()+3938

48417558 007AEA20 0000:00000000 DirectInput8Create()+CFE8

493A1D7B 007AEB40 0000:00000000

493A1171 007AEB80 0000:00000000

493A6F52 007AEBF0 0000:00000000 ??_FInputKeyAction@@QEAAXXZ()+B92

here is another

493A610C 007AEC50 0000:00000000 ?setImmediate@ForceFeedback@@AEAAX_N@Z()+3EC

493A4DE8 007AEDE0 0000:00000000 ??1Input@@AEAA@XZ()+B68

493A51EB 007AEE20 0000:00000000 ??1Input@@AEAA@XZ()+F6B

4840BB49 007AF2E0 0000:00000000 DirectInput8Create()+15D9

493A4FBC 007AF350 0000:00000000 ??1Input@@AEAA@XZ()+D3C

493A3DB1 007AF430 0000:00000000

493B19DF 007AF480 0000:00000000 ?initialize@Input@@SAXPEAX@Z()+9F

9CFB45B9 007AF530 0000:00000000

9D07AAC2 007AFB50 0000:00000000

9D07DBA0 007AFB90 0000:00000000

515A13D2 007AFBC0 0000:00000000 BaseThreadInitThunk()+22

53E103C4 007AFC10 0000:00000000 RtlUserThreadStart()+34

thanks guys..

1. Flaming Cliffs 1 or 2 is probably the wrong section for your problem ...

2. What kind of joystick do you use?

3. Do you have any force feedback devices (other than your joystick) plugged in? Like a steering wheel?

Try to experiment with the "FFB enabled" settings (DCS Options). And/or try to remove any other FFB devices except joysticks.

thanks Flagrum

sorry about the post in the wrong place :( didn't know it was..

Im thinking joystick too.. it crashes if there is anything usb plugged in or not.. but last night it seemed to run and I didn't do anything. accept plug the joystick in when the game was running. bit strange. so I tried il2 and my joystick had no force feedback.. infact there was no centre spring at all ..

btw im using a Saitek cyborg evo force. I shall take a look for drivers for this now and see if that helps . and post back .. thanks mate

Search these forums for "cyborg evo force" - iirc there were some others who had problems with that stick (idk if they were related, though)

It's worth creating a ticket with this on the website. If the joystick detection at game start is causing a crash its possibly ED worth knowing the hardware. Can't think of a solution either (with that hardware)

It's worth creating a ticket with this on the website. If the joystick detection at game start is causing a crash its possibly ED worth knowing the hardware. Can't think of a solution either (with that hardware)

Thanks guys.

I think I found the issue. I deleted the drivers from my computer and went into the registry and removed any signs of my stick being plugged in. then installed the drivers and plugged the joystick into a different usb port the game now works.. so I thought lets go back to the original port and the game started crashing again.. so from what I can gather the drivers are still there in that port somewhere.. put the usb lead back into the other port and the game fired up as normal.. now I am getting the odd crash so I turned off Force feedback and it seems to crash a lot less.. so my conclusion is that Windows 8 haven't got correct drivers for my joystick even though they are listed on there website. reason for thinking this is when going to setup usb controller soon as I press a fire button to test force feedback the app crashes Windows Shell common Dll has stopped working. which is something that I have just discovered.

I will find a fix and report back so anybody else with this issue will be ok . :)

I had the same with the Evo force before I bought my trusted TM Warthog. However, I passed it on to a friend which plays DCS now, and it doesn't crash. The trick is:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=71506