Fishbed-21 Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 Hi pilots, i was trying a simple navigation flight with the Mirage 2000C just for get more practiced on the INS wpt's management. My payload was a 2x R.550 Magic 2, 2x Super 530D and a centerline fuel tank. When i was in mid air my master caution goes yellow and on my Warning Advisory Panel the CONF light turns on. Just like how it happens after the drop of external fuel tank. But in this case the fuel tank was still attached. (On the picture see the fuel indicator DETOT and the Warning Advisory Panel) Pain is weakness leaving your body... My Hangar: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] - CPU: Intel Core i9-9900KF @ 3.60GHz to 5.00GHz - MB: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO Z390 - GPU: ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 SUPER OC 8GB - RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (8GB x4) - Storage: 1TB SSD Samsung 860 EVO 1TB - OS: Windows 10 Pro - PSU: ASUS ROG THOR 850W - Monitor: ASUS ROG XG248Q - Case: ASUS ROG HELIOS - Mouse: ASUS ROG CHAKRAM - Keyboard: ASUS ROG STRIX FLARE - Headset ASUS ROG DELTA - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog SN #95039
david.lind Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 Your centerline tank just became empty, allowing/prompting you to change the G-limiter switch.
ZHeN Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 Your centerline tank just became empty, allowing/prompting you to change the G-limiter switch. It's not empty on that screenshot, it's almost empty. But the system still tells pilot he can already switch from charges to normal. When the tank goes empty, there'll be a specific Fuel Warning light (yellow RL) right under the Fuel Amount Counter [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Fishbed-21 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Posted September 15, 2016 Your centerline tank just became empty, allowing/prompting you to change the G-limiter switch. It's not empty on that screenshot, it's almost empty. But the system still tells pilot he can already switch from charges to normal. When the tank goes empty, there'll be a specific Fuel Warning light (yellow RL) right under the Fuel Amount Counter Then i can switch to A/A Mode on FBW Config also with the empty centerline tank attached? Pain is weakness leaving your body... My Hangar: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] - CPU: Intel Core i9-9900KF @ 3.60GHz to 5.00GHz - MB: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO Z390 - GPU: ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 SUPER OC 8GB - RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (8GB x4) - Storage: 1TB SSD Samsung 860 EVO 1TB - OS: Windows 10 Pro - PSU: ASUS ROG THOR 850W - Monitor: ASUS ROG XG248Q - Case: ASUS ROG HELIOS - Mouse: ASUS ROG CHAKRAM - Keyboard: ASUS ROG STRIX FLARE - Headset ASUS ROG DELTA - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog SN #95039
ZHeN Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 you can switch to A/A anytime you want but the CONF warning light will be ON until centerline tank gets almost empty [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Fishbed-21 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Posted September 15, 2016 you can switch to A/A anytime you want but the CONF warning light will be ON until centerline tank gets almost empty Yeah but with "Charges" fbw modality the plane will limit the G and max AoA. If i bring with me 6 Mk82, switch to A/A isnt the best thing. For example in the leatherneck's MiG-21 if you pull up over 5G with bombs/tank you will lose them. Pain is weakness leaving your body... My Hangar: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] - CPU: Intel Core i9-9900KF @ 3.60GHz to 5.00GHz - MB: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO Z390 - GPU: ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 SUPER OC 8GB - RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (8GB x4) - Storage: 1TB SSD Samsung 860 EVO 1TB - OS: Windows 10 Pro - PSU: ASUS ROG THOR 850W - Monitor: ASUS ROG XG248Q - Case: ASUS ROG HELIOS - Mouse: ASUS ROG CHAKRAM - Keyboard: ASUS ROG STRIX FLARE - Headset ASUS ROG DELTA - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog SN #95039
Azrayen Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 This is the difference between "you can" and "you should". As ZHeN said, you can switch to A/A (or CHARGES) anytime. And the aircraft will obey this. But you should stick to CHARGES at all time except when your payload is: - clean aircraft - air to air missiles (any type/number) - centerline fuel tank EMPTY In other words, as soon as you have: - fuel in the center tank - wing tanks (full or empty) - any kind of air-to-ground payload => then you should be on CHARGES The CONF light respects those rules.
Fishbed-21 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Then i can switch to A/A Mode on FBW Config also with the empty centerline tank attached? But you should stick to CHARGES at all time except when your payload is: - clean aircraft - air to air missiles (any type/number) - centerline fuel tank EMPTY That was i want to know Edited September 15, 2016 by Fishbed-21 Pain is weakness leaving your body... My Hangar: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] - CPU: Intel Core i9-9900KF @ 3.60GHz to 5.00GHz - MB: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO Z390 - GPU: ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 SUPER OC 8GB - RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (8GB x4) - Storage: 1TB SSD Samsung 860 EVO 1TB - OS: Windows 10 Pro - PSU: ASUS ROG THOR 850W - Monitor: ASUS ROG XG248Q - Case: ASUS ROG HELIOS - Mouse: ASUS ROG CHAKRAM - Keyboard: ASUS ROG STRIX FLARE - Headset ASUS ROG DELTA - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog SN #95039
ZHeN Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 Yeah but with "Charges" fbw modality the plane will limit the G and max AoA. If i bring with me 6 Mk82, switch to A/A isnt the best thing. For example in the leatherneck's MiG-21 if you pull up over 5G with bombs/tank you will lose them. same for M2K here, you'll lose all your bombs, rockets and fuel tanks if you pull too hard in A/A mode [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Fishbed-21 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Posted September 15, 2016 same for M2K here, you'll lose all your bombs, rockets and fuel tanks if you pull too hard in A/A mode Great to know, i've asked to know, if i'm on A/A with my centerline tank and i pull 7G i will lose it or not Pain is weakness leaving your body... My Hangar: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] - CPU: Intel Core i9-9900KF @ 3.60GHz to 5.00GHz - MB: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO Z390 - GPU: ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 SUPER OC 8GB - RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (8GB x4) - Storage: 1TB SSD Samsung 860 EVO 1TB - OS: Windows 10 Pro - PSU: ASUS ROG THOR 850W - Monitor: ASUS ROG XG248Q - Case: ASUS ROG HELIOS - Mouse: ASUS ROG CHAKRAM - Keyboard: ASUS ROG STRIX FLARE - Headset ASUS ROG DELTA - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog SN #95039
Fishbed-21 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Posted September 15, 2016 you will :thumbup: Pain is weakness leaving your body... My Hangar: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] - CPU: Intel Core i9-9900KF @ 3.60GHz to 5.00GHz - MB: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO Z390 - GPU: ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 SUPER OC 8GB - RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (8GB x4) - Storage: 1TB SSD Samsung 860 EVO 1TB - OS: Windows 10 Pro - PSU: ASUS ROG THOR 850W - Monitor: ASUS ROG XG248Q - Case: ASUS ROG HELIOS - Mouse: ASUS ROG CHAKRAM - Keyboard: ASUS ROG STRIX FLARE - Headset ASUS ROG DELTA - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog SN #95039
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