DCS could be marketed in the Workstation HW segment?

[Worrazen]

I've had a larger idea for years ... because on one hand it's hard to segment something on just one or a few things that aren't just logically/technicall enoguh, there is the memory consumptions, demographic maybe, ... probably some other things I can't think of right now, while if we just wait a bit perhaps the usual GPU VRAM amounts for high/enthusiast gaming segments may perhaps just mature in future so it may be enough for something DCS could use ... 32GB VRAM in 2 years anyone? I'm not really sure ... but then again I keep seeing an opportunity every 3-5 months where DCS could be mentioned in product announcement or releases, just something for crying out loud!

 

The optimal idea is that it would kinda fit between enthusiast gaming and workstation segments (workstation being AFAIK a step higher than enthusiast gaming AFAIK) ... but it would be hard for just DCS to create and twist arms with HW vendors for this segment alone ... the general simulator segment already existing, just never gets any differentiation in HW or any other segmentation and gets left out ... and I think TFC/ED should do something about it earlier because now there is a big possibility of something like that perhaps shaping up with DCS core improvements, and the "big surprise" of system requirements for the [redacted] simulator 2020 and the WOW factor it made and because of it's brand recognition there is this possiblity that is going to set this stage up where HW manufacturers could be a lot more understanding and motivated for this idea of segmenting and promotion, perhaps not the HW segment totally, you probably shouldn't need a special motherboard for DCS, but just something in the marketing side at least or some other combination, but it's not some made up joke, there is made up reasons the indutry does all the time why you need this and why you need that, so DCS should ofcourse not fall into that cheap idea and if it doesn't make sense then nothing, but if there is a good techincal objective reason then why not give it a try.

 

The hardware industry is sometimes (when it tries to innovate) looking to find good uses for these segments more than just core development, but it kinda struggles I feel, trying to give the SW industry a reason to go all out ... but it didn't happen lately with the AMD Radeon VII, mainstream gaming is still the measly 1080p at 27inch or lower, so they don't have that much need for memory, infact most modern highly popular games are now quite optimized and many even much lesser on GPU than it was usually the norm.

 

The biggest problem I have with the HW industry segmentation is that they completely forget the multi-use-case users such as me, they think that workstation people never play games, so Workstation stuff is sometimes rid of any gaming stuff that I DO want to have, but the enthusiast gaming boards are so much into gaming there's lack of other stuff I need for work, every segment is just too extremely into it's own specialization, it kinda feels, although don't look at me as an expert on all the buying choices out there at all :p Now I don't happen to be able to afford the Workstation segment right now but there's probably others, they probably have more machines in that case, but I'm also purposelly not trying to upgrade and spend on anything right now while this transition is ongoing, not a good idea to do it before consoles launch, because console enhancements also benefit the PC hardware these days and you can see PS5 is better than PCs in SSD speeds right now and probably will have that lead for 6 more months or even a year after release.

 

DCS is from what I heard really meant to be a simulator at first with some game components, NOT primairly a game, so this idea, if it makes sense, would go hand in hand with that ideology. While Modern Air Combat will be primairly targeted more to the mainstream gaming segment, and it'll probably have it's own stuff in there ... but the whole point is this thread is then DCS deserves to have something in it's own segment, and not to be left out of the reviewer/HW stuff scene, because it seems always the lower stuff gets the cake and cherry on top but the hardcore stuff is left out ... in the 90' it was the other way around, it was all hardcore back then!

 

In order to persuade HW vendors into some kind of a promotion of the "flight sim segment" or just DCS on it's own if ED manages to do that haha, the HW vendors have to quickly see a good range of bulletpoints of the reasons such as a list of differentiations that would make sense, and also a list software and usecases if a new segment is attempted and this is the right time to start some of those ideas ... so even if it's not something special to have some new segment, perhaps the HW manufacturers can just create more of a themed HW with some select higher-quality parts and still would fall into Enthusiast Gaming but it would be all "optimized for flight sims" even if that marketing moniker is probably a joke but whatever, it's just better than nothing, as I said, this is a compromise and this is not my optimal idea what I'd really want, which is probably only doable if we have our own freaking factories, just practically impossible, unless I win a lottery some day, well you got my word the first thing I'd do (except personals) will be to invest into DCS and the whole ecosystem for that segment, the joysticks, the stuff, etc.

 

Some people say DCS has gone too much into graphics, ... truth is that unfortunately so much marketing is spent for graphics and so much is rated based on grapics even if it's wrong that DCS would be left out too far back if it wouldn't increase on that, still if people appreciate the whole product based a lot on graphics, while not as good as if someone directly praises the simulation, it still works out in the end as a net positive IMO, for the team morale and everything else around that. Taking more horsepower is a double edged sword, it can signify ineffectiveness and inoptimization, or it can signify a hardcore piece of kit that is really strong and is a must-have and it becomes a challenge and a benchmark , ... the quirks and symptoms of inefficiency HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT or else it's all blamed on "inoptimization/buggyness" whether real or not and it will definitely have a marked psychological effect probably instantly on the very critical reviewers eyes and the idea of a "big daddy benchmark" will be turned upside down.

 

 

So if the Workstation idea would work, gaming(FPS) performance must be better or the same IMO, if it's only a tad worse it's never going to fly, unless a HW vendor just doesn't mind it or pumps up the marketing lol, in practice not worth it then. I'm gonna go look at some Radeon VII benchmarks now (arrrg I should have done it before writing this thread, sorry)

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/266992/amd-announces-radeon-pro-vii-graphics-card-brings-back-multi-gpu-bridge

 

 

Now this this looks like an overkill or just off the point there with many non-DCS-helpful things but you get the point, just an example.

 

 

Oh look a random fighter jet ... what an appropriate coincidence

 

Edited May 14, 2020 by Worrazen