Tiger-II Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Hi, This is more of a general question, but I'm posting it here because I like to fly the JF-17. :thumbup: I haven't done an exhaustive test of this, but flying in MP the other night I thought I had a RADAR or sim or sync problem. I was trying to locate an F-14 on RADAR. I could see most other things I looked at, but not this. It was pinging my RWR, and he had me locked at one point (well... not hard-locked but certainly he was looking in my direction) then a bit later I had "MISSILE MISSILE" warning... I dodged the missile, then turned around to look again for the F-14. Nothing. Through the entire engagement, I had nothing of the F-14 on RADAR. I got curious as to why I could see other aircraft, but not the F-14. I fired up an SP mission with me, and one armed F-14. I set him up to orbit (due to my non-existent mission creation skills, I had inadvertently set him up to literally fly circles in one spot). This presented an unexpected test scenario: because he was just orbiting in-place, it meant my RADAR was looking at him from pretty much every aspect possible. I could not see him AT ALL, until 35 NM. AWACS I can see right out beyond 80 NM (not on the RADAR scope as the range is insufficient, but the map starts painting their target so the RADAR can see them at that range). I would not have said the F-14 was so uber-stealthy that it would only appear at 35 NM??? I can see Su-27 out to about 50 NM (I wouldn't expect much more). No wonder I never saw the F-14 in MP as I never got within 40 NM of him, and he turned cold and ran after he missed me with his Mk-60. I've intercepted even F-15 at 55 NM, and F-16 out to nearly 60 NM, so what the heck? Seeing as I found a convenient way to get aircraft to orbit in-place, I'm going to set up a mission with various aircraft to see at what ranges I can detect them on RADAR. Has anyone done a range test of the RADAR to see what they can see at what range? In my test scenario I set the aircraft to orbit at 30000 ft, and I was co-altitude. Edited May 18, 2020 by Tiger-II Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
L0op8ack Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 it's up/down-look, head-on/tail, jamming related, if you want to do the test, turn off target ECM, try all the test matrix: up look, head-on up look, tail down look, head-on down look , tail
Tiger-II Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 it's up/down-look, head-on/tail, jamming related, if you want to do the test, turn off target ECM, try all the test matrix: up look, head-on up look, tail down look, head-on down look , tail Thanks! I'll look more closely at this! They weren't jamming - I ensured they did not react to me nor enabled the jammer (if they had one fitted). Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
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