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Instead of doing 2C fight on the deck, I refrained my temptation of going lower. I fight the 2C fight above 3000 m (10000 feet). The 2C fight usually starts at 6000 m (20000 feet) and the downward spiral goes lower and lower, but I tried to keep the fight above 3000 m.

The reason is that I won't go blackout that easily at higher altitude, which allows me to fully exploit its maneuverability at higher speed. 3000 m is already very low and in fact most fights end above 4000 m.

Here is my test result and I will post a replay file later.

Half fuel, clean, remove all wing pylons manually (wing pylons are included even in the default "clean" configuration. I removed them manually), H = 3000 m.

F-16C's peak STR is 16.4deg/sec, around Mach 0.9

Mig-29's peak STR is 15.5deg/sec, at Mach 0.84 (with 2 wing pylons, since it does not have tip pylons)

JF-17's peak STR is 15.3deg/sec, at Mach 0.6 and 0.8 (two peaks)

F/A-18's peak STR is 16deg/sec, around Mach 0.75

This works well against AI at least. Once the merge starts, keep an eye on the direction of turning. If the AI chooses 1C fight, switch your direction of turning.

Also works at 4500 m (15000 feet).

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