DCS-Bios and Encoders

[byteman59]

Trying to setup the use of encoders for one of my panels.

Encoder have -,+,clk,dt, and sw.

How do i connect for the following 

// IFF Volume
DcsBios::RotaryEncoder intIffVol("INT_IFF_VOL", "-3200", "+3200", PIN_A, PIN_B);

// IFF Un-Mute
DcsBios::RotaryEncoder intIffUnmute("INT_IFF_UNMUTE", "DEC", "INC", PIN_A, PIN_B);

I want to be able to use the push button on the rotary encoder for the mute.

 

Thanks,

[No1sonuk]

Try this: 
- = GND
+ = 5V (Not sure if this is needed *)
CLK = PIN_A
DT = PIN_B
SW = PIN_SW (the push button)

* I think if it has the + and - it's on a board with pullup resistors.  That's why it has a 5V supply.
What specific encoder is it?

As for the Un-mute line, try this:
DcsBios::ActionButton intIffUnmuteToggle("INT_IFF_UNMUTE", "TOGGLE", PIN_SW);

[byteman59]

The encoder has a built in push button, so i can use volume and mute from one encoder.

I thought pin A and B could be CLK and DT for VOL, but wasnt sure about the MUTE using the push button on encoder

Perhaps use SW and CLK for MUTE, such as DT and CLK for VOL?

 

 

Edited April 25, 2022 by byteman59

[byteman59]

19 hours ago, No1sonuk said:

Try this: 
- = GND
+ = 5V (Not sure if this is needed *)
CLK = PIN_A
DT = PIN_B
SW = PIN_SW (the push button)

* I think if it has the + and - it's on a board with pullup resistors.  That's why it has a 5V supply.
What specific encoder is it?

As for the Un-mute line, try this:
DcsBios::ActionButton intIffUnmuteToggle("INT_IFF_UNMUTE", "TOGGLE", PIN_SW);

Can you explain this code? Why idon't i see it in DSC-BIOS  reference?

DcsBios::ActionButton intIffUnmuteToggle("INT_IFF_UNMUTE", "TOGGLE", PIN_SW);

[No1sonuk]

22 hours ago, byteman59 said:

The encoder has a built in push button, so i can use volume and mute from one encoder.

I thought pin A and B could be CLK and DT for VOL, but wasnt sure about the MUTE using the push button on encoder

Perhaps use SW and CLK for MUTE, such as DT and CLK for VOL?

 

 

No. SW is the push button and is independent of the rotary.  Treat it as though it's a separate button.
The Actionbutton toggle means a momentary button works as though it's a locking button, i.e. press-on, press-off.

3 hours ago, byteman59 said:

Can you explain this code? Why idon't i see it in DSC-BIOS  reference?

DcsBios::ActionButton intIffUnmuteToggle("INT_IFF_UNMUTE", "TOGGLE", PIN_SW);

Switch the view to "Advanced".
You'll see that there, as well as a lot more.  e.g. you'll see you can read the position of in-game switches, etc. too.

Edited April 25, 2022 by No1sonuk

[byteman59]

15 hours ago, No1sonuk said:

No. SW is the push button and is independent of the rotary.  Treat it as though it's a separate button.
The Actionbutton toggle means a momentary button works as though it's a locking button, i.e. press-on, press-off.

Switch the view to "Advanced".
You'll see that there, as well as a lot more.  e.g. you'll see you can read the position of in-game switches, etc. too.

 

Got it to work, thank you!

Not sure i understand "Switch the view to "Advanced"." Where?

[No1sonuk]

4 hours ago, byteman59 said:

Got it to work, thank you!

Not sure i understand "Switch the view to "Advanced"." Where?

Here:

[byteman59]

19 hours ago, No1sonuk said:

Here:

Mine does not look like that.

[No1sonuk]

Ah.
I don't think the "Hub" version of DCS-BIOS has the actionbutton function.
My screenshot is from the "FlightPanels Fork", which is actively maintained and updated.
I can see now why you were talking about using the rotary encoder function for the mute switch. 

So with this new information (that you're using Hub), This idea you asked about won't work as you've suggested:

On 4/25/2022 at 1:15 AM, byteman59 said:

Perhaps use SW and CLK for MUTE, such as DT and CLK for VOL?

DT and CLK are really misnamed.  They should be A and B.
If you use one of them again with SW in another rotary encoder function for the mute, every time you adjust the volume, the mute will turn on or off.
To use SW with a rotary encoder code line, you'll need to use an unused IO pin as the second pin.

[byteman59]

17 minutes ago, No1sonuk said:

Ah.
I don't think the "Hub" version of DCS-BIOS has the actionbutton function.
My screenshot is from the "FlightPanels Fork", which is actively maintained and updated.
I can see now why you were talking about using the rotary encoder function for the mute switch. 

So with this new information (that you're using Hub), This idea you asked about won't work as you've suggested:

DT and CLK are really misnamed.  They should be A and B.
If you use one of them again with SW in another rotary encoder function for the mute, every time you adjust the volume, the mute will turn on or off.
To use SW with a rotary encoder code line, you'll need to use an unused IO pin as the second pin.

How do i install the FlightPanel Fork vesion?

[No1sonuk]

Start here:
https://github.com/DCSFlightpanels

If you're just running Arduinos, all you need are the "dcs-bios" and "dcs-bios-arduino-library" parts.

There's a setup guide here:
https://github.com/DCSFlightpanels/dcs-bios/blob/master/Scripts/DCS-BIOS/doc/DCS-BIOS-FLIGHTPANELS.pdf

THE biggest difference you'll notice is that Flightpanels doesn't have the fancy web interface for connection that Hub has.
This is mainly because Flightpanels is based on an older version of DCS-BIOS.  HOWEVER, because Flightpanels is actively maintained, it is more up to date than Hub in that it has some new functions (such as SwitchWithCover2Pos), and has the new module support added (including preliminary Apache support).

[byteman59]

17 hours ago, No1sonuk said:

Start here:
https://github.com/DCSFlightpanels

If you're just running Arduinos, all you need are the "dcs-bios" and "dcs-bios-arduino-library" parts.

There's a setup guide here:
https://github.com/DCSFlightpanels/dcs-bios/blob/master/Scripts/DCS-BIOS/doc/DCS-BIOS-FLIGHTPANELS.pdf

THE biggest difference you'll notice is that Flightpanels doesn't have the fancy web interface for connection that Hub has.
This is mainly because Flightpanels is based on an older version of DCS-BIOS.  HOWEVER, because Flightpanels is actively maintained, it is more up to date than Hub in that it has some new functions (such as SwitchWithCover2Pos), and has the new module support added (including preliminary Apache support).

Thanks, got it working, much appreciated!

[byteman59]

On 4/27/2022 at 3:22 PM, No1sonuk said:

Start here:
https://github.com/DCSFlightpanels

If you're just running Arduinos, all you need are the "dcs-bios" and "dcs-bios-arduino-library" parts.

There's a setup guide here:
https://github.com/DCSFlightpanels/dcs-bios/blob/master/Scripts/DCS-BIOS/doc/DCS-BIOS-FLIGHTPANELS.pdf

THE biggest difference you'll notice is that Flightpanels doesn't have the fancy web interface for connection that Hub has.
This is mainly because Flightpanels is based on an older version of DCS-BIOS.  HOWEVER, because Flightpanels is actively maintained, it is more up to date than Hub in that it has some new functions (such as SwitchWithCover2Pos), and has the new module support added (including preliminary Apache support).

Question on the Control Reference, to get Live Data, does DCS World need to be running in a flight? 

[No1sonuk]

4 hours ago, byteman59 said:

Question on the Control Reference, to get Live Data, does DCS World need to be running in a flight? 

Yes