make NS430 usable on all DCS aircraft

[toro 6]

would love to see the NS430 an available option for all airframes. Not sure what the reasoning is for restricting its use since IRL the 430 could be used in any airframe. thanks

[Mike_Romeo]

On 2/9/2023 at 5:06 PM, toro 6 said:

would love to see the NS430 an available option for all airframes. Not sure what the reasoning is for restricting its use since IRL the 430 could be used in any airframe. thanks

In which aircrafts you cant use it ?

[IAR-93]

In Mig 21 i thing will fit perfect in place were camera is mount, right from collimator

[FlyNeX]

Edited August 22 by FlyNeX

[zerO_crash]

I've raised the notion of NS430 in multiple Russian cockpits, chief amongst MiG-21Bis and Mi-24P. The answer that I got from the devs, was that due to the length (longitudinal) of the NS430, there would simply be no space in the cockpits. In both cases, it would stick outside the canopy glass. 

 

For the MiG-21Bis, it was completely impossible, as stated by devs of Magnitude 3 LLC.

 

For the Mi-24P, I recommended that as a final place to fit it, would be instead of the doppler map in the pilot's cockpit. This has not yet materialized though.

 

Since you @FlyNeX apparently do digital geometry and arts - do you have the chance to take pictures for me of both the NS430 in the MiG-21Bis, as well as Mi-24P from multiple angles. This, especially proving that it doesn't collide with either the canopy glass, nor any other physical part of the cockpit. If I can get those off you, I'll be able to meet the devs with evidence proving that indeed, it is possible, and hopefully have them reassess their original decisions.

 

(For that matter, you can send over other modules that are of interest as well. For me personally, either the NS430 fits and you use it, or it doesn't. The 2D version simply isn't realistic.)

- L-39C has it if you dismount the sight. The L-39ZA however, doesn't. Maybe you can find space on the side there, or even have it in the rear cockpit.

- MiG-15Bis.

- MiG-19P strictly doesn't need it, but for "modern" free flights, sure. Don't stress this one out though, until we know what's up with Razbam.

- Huey is definitely a good candidate. (More images from other angles.)

- Yak-52 is perfect as a trainer.

- F-5E and possibly the F-86F

- Mirage F1 and Mirage 2000C (again, Razbam on the last one)

- F-4E Phantom

 

All those, would benefit from NS430 3D models, and ultimately make the module more popular.

[FlyNeX]

I've raised the notion of NS430 in multiple Russian cockpits, chief amongst MiG-21Bis and Mi-24P. The answer that I got from the devs, was that due to the length (longitudinal) of the NS430, there would simply be no space in the cockpits. In both cases, it would stick outside the canopy glass. 
 
For the MiG-21Bis, it was completely impossible, as stated by devs of Magnitude 3 LLC.
 
For the Mi-24P, I recommended that as a final place to fit it, would be instead of the doppler map in the pilot's cockpit. This has not yet materialized though.
 
Since you @FlyNeX apparently do digital geometry and arts - do you have the chance to take pictures for me of both the NS430 in the MiG-21Bis, as well as Mi-24P from multiple angles. This, especially proving that it doesn't collide with either the canopy glass, nor any other physical part of the cockpit. If I can get those off you, I'll be able to meet the devs with evidence proving that indeed, it is possible, and hopefully have them reassess their original decisions.
 
(For that matter, you can send over other modules that are of interest as well. For me personally, either the NS430 fits and you use it, or it doesn't. The 2D version simply isn't realistic.)
- L-39C has it if you dismount the sight. The L-39ZA however, doesn't. Maybe you can find space on the side there, or even have it in the rear cockpit.
- MiG-15Bis.
- MiG-19P strictly doesn't need it, but for "modern" free flights, sure. Don't stress this one out though, until we know what's up with Razbam.
- Huey is definitely a good candidate. (More images from other angles.)
- Yak-52 is perfect as a trainer.
- F-5E and possibly the F-86F
- Mirage F1 and Mirage 2000C (again, Razbam on the last one)
- F-4E Phantom
 
All those, would benefit from NS430 3D models, and ultimately make the module more popular.

I will, but you can do it by yourself too. Ive open Modelviewer from bin folder, first I was loaded cockpit edm file then loaded again extra edm model, original edm of ns430 from game. Then, you can manipulate and positioning how you like.

For Mi24 which Ive show up, upper left side over front panel, there wasnt collision with glass even not with some front parts of model.

I was have collision in Yak52 over front panel using whole model, but shorted "integrated" one I didnt find space to place it.

If you ask me, I would like every single aircraft to have that feature, except of hornet, viper, warthog...


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