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bankerzilla

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Ok I have dug through the forums and I have not seen my problem so I will ask.

 

I have found where I set up my axis for the X45 Throttle to link to collective. I erased the defaults and when I click on Axis Tune and get in the axis tune screen I move my throttle forward and back but the game does not "see" it! I have gone into windows and configured and tested and there it does show movement.

 

 

 

When I go to the Add Assignments Panel and move my throttle stick fore and aft it does not recognize any movements at all! I can alt tab out to look at the calibration tab in windows and it is picking up movement there just fine.

 

If I manually choose slider1 it works but bugged~ the only way I can get it to work is to link it to Slider1 but then I only get limited range of movement. the dots do not travel fully across the fields.

 

Any help would be appreciated!!!

 

 

Oh also it recognizes all other inputs from the X45 Throttle ie. rudder and sliders just not the forward and back movements of the actual throttle.

 

from another post- I am having similar problems with my Saitek X45- upon investigation, i notice that in the Axis Tune tab I am NOT getting full movement on the range of motion of the Throttle. This is in line with me barely getting any power for take off when I pull up on the collective. I also do not have anything mapped to "throttle" it is all mapped in collective.

I also changed joystick to my Saitek Cyborg gold and that one did register movements with its' slider but I would really like to use the throttle stick in game.

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USSR_Rik

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Are you sure, that your problem is "not usual"? Did you read FAQ? Did you choose category "Axis Controls" in drop-down box before throttle assignment and tunung?

Men may keep a sort of level of good, but no man has ever been able to keep on one level of evil. That road goes down and down.  
Можно держаться на одном уровне добра, но никому и никогда не удавалось удержаться на одном уровне зла. Эта дорога ведёт вниз и вниз.

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bankerzilla

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Are you sure, that your problem is "not usual"? Did you read FAQ? Did you choose category "Axis Controls" in drop-down box before throttle assignment and tunung?

 

Yes I am certain- If I could do a screenshot I would post. While in the Ka-50 Real screen I click on "Axis Commands" which is what shows up and I find the column with Saitek X45, then I double click on "Flight Control Collective" then the "Add Assignment Panel" comes up. At this point i can move my throttle back and forth all I want but the game will not register any movement, BUT if I turn the rotation knobs on it - then it registers them as Joy_Slider2. Unfortunately I don't want to set a knob as my collective.

 

For good measure I am going to go out and try to do the same but in the Ka-50 Game screen. Nope that acts the same as above.

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USSR_Rik

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OK. Try to check and re-calibrate joystick (pay attention especially to throttle (i.e. "slider" axis) in Windows Control Panel (as usual). Seems to this axis haven't full range - and therefore input subsystem of BS can't react.

 

BTW, can you assign another axis (for example, rotary on throttle)?

Men may keep a sort of level of good, but no man has ever been able to keep on one level of evil. That road goes down and down.  
Можно держаться на одном уровне добра, но никому и никогда не удавалось удержаться на одном уровне зла. Эта дорога ведёт вниз и вниз.

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bankerzilla

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yes it lets me assign rotary- I am looking at range of motion in windows now and in the down position it shows all white and a bar that says throttle and in the full forward position I see the red bar move up to the top making it all red.

 

I have recalibrated the joystick and tried again and still nothing.

 

 

What is also odd is if I accept the defaults it chooses JOY_SLIDER1 which does capture some motion but if you look at the Axis Tune Panel the little black dot only comes down about 1/3 of the way down the red line instead of all the way to the bottom left hand corner.

 

I have tested the Throttle with IL2 and WWIIOnline and it is working fine. I have the latest X45 Saitek Drivers and am using Vista 32bit SP1.

 

Hope this helps!

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ZaltysZ

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You don't have to rely on auto detection, because you can assign axis manually. Open axis assignment window and with mouse choose "JOY Z" as axis. "JOY Z" should correspond to X45 throttle. See the screenshot I have attached (it is in Russian, but I think you will understand as only text differs from English window of axis assignment).

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bankerzilla

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You don't have to rely on auto detection, because you can assign axis manually. Open axis assignment window and with mouse choose "JOY Z" as axis. "JOY Z" should correspond to X45 throttle. See the screenshot I have attached (it is in Russian, but I think you will understand as only text differs from English window of axis assignment).

 

Yes, once I realized that auto detect was not working I decided to choose from the drop down. unfortunately as I said above the only drop down that will work is Joy_Slider1 not Z axis as so many others have said should be for the X45 throttle. Even then the collective is barely moving as I explained above.

:cry:

ZaltysZ

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Do you have any profile loaded into Saitek SST (Saitek programming software)? It may conflict.

 

Also, I have said "JOY_Z should correspond to throttle", but it may not. I have X52, so axis labels may be different after all. Have you tried all axis (yes, I know there is a lot of them)?

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USSR_Rik

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It may conflict.
Theoretically - yes, some conflicts are possible. But I've checked now my system: Saitek X-52, axis Slider divided by 3 bands in Saitek profiler and mapped as "R" and "D" buttons. Nevertheless, I can assign this Slider as axis in game.

 

bankerzilla, please attach a few screenshots (assignment process step by step).

 

Added. Do you have "clean" English installation, without mods, saved-restored files etc?

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Men may keep a sort of level of good, but no man has ever been able to keep on one level of evil. That road goes down and down.  
Можно держаться на одном уровне добра, но никому и никогда не удавалось удержаться на одном уровне зла. Эта дорога ведёт вниз и вниз.

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bankerzilla

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Theoretically - yes, some conflicts are possible. But I've checked now my system: Saitek X-52, axis Slider divided by 3 bands in Saitek profiler and mapped as "R" and "D" buttons. Nevertheless, I can assign this Slider as axis in game.

 

bankerzilla, please attach a few screenshots (assignment process step by step).

 

Added. Do you have "clean" English installation, without mods, saved-restored files etc?

 

I will put up some screenshots, step by step tonight. Yes I have a brand new version with nothing in it. maybe I can do a Fraps movie to show you what is happening? I just don't know where I can upload a fraps file.

bankerzilla

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I thought it was my KB and mouse are USB Laser Lychosa brands high end gamer mouse and KB. I am disabling it now. Will report.

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bankerzilla

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Damn I was hoping that was it! I deleted anything that was in their that was not attached to my PC. So I left the KB, Mouse and the Saitek X45 and I went back in and I got the same results~

ZaltysZ

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Unplug X45, launch the game, go to control setup window. If "Virtual HID device" is absent now (because X45 isn't plugged), then you have driver problem with X45.

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USSR_Rik

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According to uploaded video, I can say only: slider and Z axis are not tuned in Windows Device Control Panel. But I believe that you have checked them.

 

Please, read this post and make as described http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=604271&postcount=15

Men may keep a sort of level of good, but no man has ever been able to keep on one level of evil. That road goes down and down.  
Можно держаться на одном уровне добра, но никому и никогда не удавалось удержаться на одном уровне зла. Эта дорога ведёт вниз и вниз.

G.K. Chesterton

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bankerzilla

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Ok- I got tired of messing with it so I went out and did my share for the Global Economy and bought an X52!!! Hopefully it won't be nearly the hassle!!!! Will let you know soon.

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