Has anyone tried the Vp Force Rhino?

[propeler]

3 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Eventually, competition should pull the prices down

Down to what? Rhino is more than reasonably priced! Moza is already dirty cheap! How much less price do you need?

[Aapje]

@propeler

The lower the price for an FFB option, the more people can afford one. So there is no lower limit.

Note that statements like "reasonably priced" and "dirt cheap" are not objective and for many people, $550 for a gaming peripheral is not at all dirt cheap.

Of course, the above is just about the demand side. What is reasonably from a production point of view is a different question, and is in no small part dependent on the features of the desired product. As I've said before, I think that ideally, we have more advanced products at higher prices and more limited products at lower prices (like a desktop model with weak motors).

[propeler]

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

So there is no lower limit

There is limit. Always. The limit is - quality for price.  If it will be a cheap trash - nobody need it. 

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

$550 for a gaming peripheral is not at all dirt cheap

Seeing in review what is inside of the base(inside is the clone of Brunner by the way, which cost 3x times more) it is already cheap. Even Rhino is cheap for what it gives considering that it is monopoly now  

[Aapje]

Brunner is a Swiss company that makes things by hand, not a manufacturing company. They're the kind of guys that you get bespoke or very low volume products from at an eye-watering price. But they are not competent at competing even with VPForce in manufacturing ability, let alone an actual serious manufacturing company that makes 10k-millions of products.

[Panzerlang]

On 8/2/2024 at 1:39 AM, Aapje said:

Brunner is a Swiss company that makes things by hand, not a manufacturing company. They're the kind of guys that you get bespoke or very low volume products from at an eye-watering price. But they are not competent at competing even with VPForce in manufacturing ability, let alone an actual serious manufacturing company that makes 10k-millions of products.

Brunner are fraudulent advertisers too in my opinion; not by what they claim but by what they don't say. I bought their MK1 base and it reduced and then cut power in under a minute of sustained-turn dogfighting. It's now an obscenely expensive waste of cupboard-space.

[Aapje]

@Panzerlang

Perhaps you should sell it to a virtual helicopter pilot. Apparently, it's reasonably usable for that use case.

[Panzerlang]

13 minutes ago, Aapje said:

@Panzerlang

Perhaps you should sell it to a virtual helicopter pilot. Apparently, it's reasonably usable for that use case.

Yes, it's perfect for anything other than hard dogfighting and until it throttled itself I was very happy with it.