Mi-8 Anti tank 9M17 Phalanga/Fleyta

[nil48f]

According to some fonts, some version of the Mi-8 could carry 9M17 Phalanga/Fleyta anti-tank missiles.
This addition to the helicopter could be like the NS430, pay about 5-10 dollars to be able to have the missile system.
It could be a very entertaining update.

Edited May 2, 2024 by nil48f

[zerO_crash]

It's not a realistic loadout for the Mi-8MTV2, therefore, it won't get added. Also, NS430 is only optional as the real one is essentially plug-and-play. Most modules don't have the space for it in their configuration, thus no physical NS430 (2D is purely added for convenience). Still, optional GPS =/= optional loadout. This will never be a practice in this simulator, rest assured.

 

Any other equipment then we currently have, will require a different model of the Mi-8. Also, never mention Wikipedia as a source for anything. There is much at fault there. That's all there is to it.

Edited February 7, 2024 by zerO_crash

[Xeemix]

On 2/6/2024 at 7:21 PM, zerO_crash said:

It's not a realistic loadout for the Mi-8MTV2, therefore, it won't get added. Also, NS430 is only optional as the real one is essentially plug-and-play. Most modules don't have the space for it in their configuration, thus no physical NS430 (2D is purely added for convenience). Still, optional GPS =/= optional loadout. This will never be a practice in this simulator, rest assured.

 

Any other equipment then we currently have, will require a different model of the Mi-8. Also, never mention Wikipedia as a source for anything. There is much at fault there. That's all there is to it.

Actually the Hip-E was the first variant of the platform to use missiles, having a special variant of the Fleyta missile for use on the Mi-8 specifically, later on it would be able to use Malyutkas. The E designation was actually related to its new armament beyond just the simple rockets of the old version, mounting four missiles on top rail pylons. I too would like to see these beauts in action and we're lucky to have the exact variant that used em!nullnullnull

[zerO_crash]

On 1/13/2025 at 8:20 AM, Xeemix said:

Actually the Hip-E was the first variant of the platform to use missiles, having a special variant of the Fleyta missile for use on the Mi-8 specifically, later on it would be able to use Malyutkas. The E designation was actually related to its new armament beyond just the simple rockets of the old version, mounting four missiles on top rail pylons. I too would like to see these beauts in action and we're lucky to have the exact variant that used em!nullnullnull

 

Well, no. The Hip-E you are mentioning, is actually the Mi-8TV, which is a whole different machine than what we have. They look very similar, and that's where it ends:

 

- TV, was built in 1968 and onwards, vs. our MTV-2 which was 1978 and onwards.

- TV series, use the old Izotov TV2-117A engines, a very different engine to what we have. This, not only in performance, but also very much in limitations, maintenance and lifetime. 

- TV series, had a simpler cockpit than what we have in our MTV-2, as some of the equipment was simply not there (certain older radio variants, and fewer of those, as an example).

- TV series, were deployed to a different time, when there was no Mi-24 to speak of yet. When the MTV-2 came around, the Mi-24 was a well established aircraft, and the roles became much more specific for each and every airframe. With that said, MTV-5 was built as a version of the Mi-8 that could carry guided missiles (AT/HE Ataka), albeit designated for special forces.

 

You can look further back, and you'll find that Mi-4 carried Malyutkas, however that does not justify putting them on our Mi-8MTV-2. In fact, S-5 rockets (asked about before), could be done, if only ED "created" an export version of our Mi-8MTV-2 (our variant is the Soviet domestic one). It would be literally the same Mi-8MTV-2, but simulating other countries which had the Mi-8, and mostly still S-5 rockets in storage.

 

Mi-8MTV-2 won't get such weaponry, simply because it never was carrier. That's that.

[Xeemix]

9 hours ago, zerO_crash said:

 

Well, no. The Hip-E you are mentioning, is actually the Mi-8TV, which is a whole different machine than what we have. They look very similar, and that's where it ends:

 

- TV, was built in 1968 and onwards, vs. our MTV-2 which was 1978 and onwards.

- TV series, use the old Izotov TV2-117A engines, a very different engine to what we have. This, not only in performance, but also very much in limitations, maintenance and lifetime. 

- TV series, had a simpler cockpit than what we have in our MTV-2, as some of the equipment was simply not there (certain older radio variants, and fewer of those, as an example).

- TV series, were deployed to a different time, when there was no Mi-24 to speak of yet. When the MTV-2 came around, the Mi-24 was a well established aircraft, and the roles became much more specific for each and every airframe. With that said, MTV-5 was built as a version of the Mi-8 that could carry guided missiles (AT/HE Ataka), albeit designated for special forces.

 

You can look further back, and you'll find that Mi-4 carried Malyutkas, however that does not justify putting them on our Mi-8MTV-2. In fact, S-5 rockets (asked about before), could be done, if only ED "created" an export version of our Mi-8MTV-2 (our variant is the Soviet domestic one). It would be literally the same Mi-8MTV-2, but simulating other countries which had the Mi-8, and mostly still S-5 rockets in storage.

 

Mi-8MTV-2 won't get such weaponry, simply because it never was carrier. That's that.

After going through my sources I see that you were right, your comment about the engines is what made me caught my mistake. However, the problem in you being right is that the Hip E is what is being advertised and sold, where as the Mi-8MTV2 is the Hip H. I had wondered for the longest time why this helicopter had such a meager loadout and now it all makes so much sense. That being said I would love to get the VSM-1 mine system for the machine and if we're stretching, The S-24 rockets and R-60 missiles that were tested with atleast 1 Hip in Afghanistan!