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Suddenly I cant run DCS - game crashes on loadup screen at "Export Start" . 

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Hi Shack

The crash occurred inside edCore.dll.

Try a repair
Delete Saved Games\DCS\fxo and metashaders2 and try again.
Next, delete %LOCALAPPDATA%\TEMP\DCS and try again.
Next, try renaming Saved Games\DCS to DCS.old ( keep it as a backup) restart DCS login and test, DCS will have created a fresh saved games dcs folder. 

Advice
 
In Windows:
Disable Game Mode
Disable Hardware accelerated GPU scheduling
Disable Core Isolation
Disable Core Parking

Tuning Tips
 
Disable civil traffic.
Enable Full Screen mode.
Turn off SSLR.
Turn off SSAO.
If you have FPS issues, try turning off VSYNC in graphics settings.

let us know if it helps 

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Well ... DCS appeared to run fine for one mission.  Upon restart the same crash occurred again. Appears to be in the "EDCORE" dll ? 

 

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Intel i9 14900K @5.5 MHz, 64GB DDR 5 RAM at 6000 MHz, RTX4090, Pimax Crystal HMD, HOTAS: Winwing F16EX / Orion 2 Throttle base / Top Gun MIP / F-16 ICP setup.

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Ok, This is what worked for my setup.  The issue I had was that DCS would crash on loadup and the log file identified 'edcore.dll' as the reason. 

The issue was that my Antivirus software (Bitdefender) only created a rule for DCS UPDATE.exe and not the DCS MT exe file. Once I added the DCS MT exe file in my antivirus sofware as an exception through the firewall -  no more issues. 

Hopefully this is helpful to someone ! 

Happy New Year to everyone ! 

 

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Shack said:

Ok, This is what worked for my setup.  The issue I had was that DCS would crash on loadup and the log file identified 'edcore.dll' as the reason. 

The issue was that my Antivirus software (Bitdefender) only created a rule for DCS UPDATE.exe and not the DCS MT exe file. Once I added the DCS MT exe file in my antivirus sofware as an exception through the firewall -  no more issues. 

Hopefully this is helpful to someone ! 

Happy New Year to everyone ! 

hello. good to hear you are flying again. i do suggest that you add exceptions for the folders because this issue will most likely come back. every update someone has troubles and it sometimes turns out to be AV. these DLLs get changed during development, then AV has no idea the status of the new file.

this is defender but the premise is the same.

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Thats good gouge. I definitely will do so. 

Thank you ! 

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Turning off entire folders isn't considered a good practice. Hopefully this gets sorted so we stop having these issues not to mention the  F-15 issue in the past and the current F-4 problems.

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On 1/2/2025 at 6:40 PM, Bingo911 said:

Turning off entire folders isn't considered a good practice. Hopefully this gets sorted so we stop having these issues not to mention the  F-15 issue in the past and the current F-4 problems.

of course that is your prerogative. you can leave it the way it is and submit what is getting blocked and wait until your AV manufacturer flag it is a false positive. some DCS files, especially DDLs, get updated and there is no history for it. so the heuristics in the AV blocks the file. there are many people excluding the two folders without any issues. it also speeds up the game loading. mine went from 2 minutes to under 30 seconds.

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Of course its my choice. I'm just saying it's a risk, minor maybe but it's a risk. Hopefully it gets fixed to where this isn't an issue because at some point we shouldn't have to do voodoo to get DCS to work/run decently/insert other issues here.

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59 minutes ago, Bingo911 said:

Of course its my choice. I'm just saying it's a risk, minor maybe but it's a risk. Hopefully it gets fixed to where this isn't an issue because at some point we shouldn't have to do voodoo to get DCS to work/run decently/insert other issues here.

How would ED fix this short of submitting every patch to ALL AV providers prior to releasing it?  The AV's are (in part) looking for changes in certain file types to "predict" that it might be something malign, so there is really nothing that ED can do.  And interestingly there are 3 or 4 AV programs that consistently cause issues so it's not even all AV's.  Maybe those ones need to tweak their programs to not throw false positives.

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3 hours ago, Bingo911 said:

How do all these other games do it? lol....

DCS has many more DLL files than our other favorite flight sim. on my system, DCS updated 271 of 410 DLL files last patch. the other favorite flight sim has a total of 55 DLL files with 44 being updated in last patch. it could simply be that the massive amount of DLLs take a lot to manage.

but we are sitting on the outside looking in. who really knows.

so in short, you do what many of the other users do and exclude folders, or sit and wait until DCS works for you.

by the way i never once in all my years of DCS hear that someone got a virus from DCS and the world around them collapsed.

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I'm still intermittently "freezing until crash" on multiplayer about 50% of the time. One time, I will freeze to crash, it will repeat a few restarts, then I'll be in and then it works flawlessly until it doesn't again. I've applied ALL of the "fixes", but this issue has a mind of it's own. It would be all over the forums if more people flew MP, but most don't. My current set-up (Hardware, Software and AV) has run DCS perfectly for over three years on this machine... until now. What I'm suggesting is... I didn't break it. 

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1 hour ago, MatzWarhog said:

I'm still intermittently "freezing until crash" on multiplayer about 50% of the time. One time, I will freeze to crash, it will repeat a few restarts, then I'll be in and then it works flawlessly until it doesn't again. I've applied ALL of the "fixes", but this issue has a mind of it's own. It would be all over the forums if more people flew MP, but most don't. My current set-up (Hardware, Software and AV) has run DCS perfectly for over three years on this machine... until now. What I'm suggesting is... I didn't break it. 

As a starting point, maybe some details on your hardware and a log from one of the crashes, then maybe someone could give you some hints.

But just because your AV or hardware has been working fine until this point doesn't guarantee something hasn't gone wrong with it.

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4 hours ago, rob10 said:

As a starting point, maybe some details on your hardware and a log from one of the crashes, then maybe someone could give you some hints.

But just because your AV or hardware has been working fine until this point doesn't guarantee something hasn't gone wrong with it.

Wrong thread. I have log files in two other threads regarding the same issues, all post the most recent two updates. 

 

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