sarumax Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Hello, could somebody explain to me how to setup the LOFT bombing configuration from the WSO seat, being a HUMAN and not with JESTER. There are many videos but all using jester, I've been trying to replicate what jester does and I'm already using the bombing table, but there are some parameters I can't find where to put them For instance the Altitude and speed used on the approach etc If I use the bombing table to create all the required parameters where each one goes in the cockpit? I mean using jester the loft works, and even the flight director helps you with the approach but if doing it manual the horizontal bar, for instance, doesnt show.
Zabuzard Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Hello, could somebody explain to me how to setup the LOFT bombing configuration from the WSO seat, being a HUMAN and not with JESTER. There are many videos but all using jester, I've been trying to replicate what jester does and I'm already using the bombing table, but there are some parameters I can't find where to put them For instance the Altitude and speed used on the approach etc If I use the bombing table to create all the required parameters where each one goes in the cockpit? I mean using jester the loft works, and even the flight director helps you with the approach but if doing it manual the horizontal bar, for instance, doesnt show. The release altitude and speed are only used to compute the correct drag coefficient value. They are not entered separately.Kindly see the corresponding manual page for details, cheers:https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/stores/air_to_ground/bombs/employment/lofting_tossing.html#procedure---loftAlso see:https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/procedures/bombs/bombs_loft.html
sarumax Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 I'm sorry, I already did that's why I'm writing this (If you put numbers in the image please make a reference to it in the manual's text). It didn't work for me, I would say show a picture of the bombing table with an actual LOFT real example then say where each value should go in the LABS panel, ARBCS computer (bombing timers) and WR CS panel's parameters, please, and being a human WSO not with jester's help (using the bombing table, fine but not the actual jester in te back)
sarumax Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 (edited) I've came up with this example, I think each bomb mode should have its own actual example, at least for me, its too complicated the manual with everything separated in multiple pages nullCould anyone validate this example and say what could be missing? Pilot set the LOFT MODE, the multiplier, the number of bombs, and the flight director on Ande the WSO bellow Edited January 6 by sarumax
Zabuzard Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Kindly review this page again:https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/procedures/bombs/bombs_loft.htmlFor LOFT you need to enter the loft angle (low angle knob) and the pullup timer, as shown on the linked procedure. Thats it, nothing else needs to be entered.Once you are over the IP you press and hold the Bomb Button. At this point the aircraft starts running down this Pullup Timer. Once it hits zero you get the cue to pullup (tone and lamp). You pullup and the aircraft automatically releases the weapon the moment you hit the Low Angle you configured.Since it is solely based on a pure timer it is crucial that you fly the parameters you used in the tool to obtain the timer value precisely. That is, if you for example fly faster or higher or miss the IP by 0.5nm than the values you entered into the tool that spit you out the timer value, then you will miss the target. I'm sorry, I already did that's why I'm writing this (If you put numbers in the image please make a reference to it in the manual's text). It didn't work for me, I would say show a picture of the bombing table with an actual LOFT real example then say where each value should go in the LABS panel, ARBCS computer (bombing timers) and WR CS panel's parameters, please, and being a human WSO not with jester's help (using the bombing table, fine but not the actual jester in te back)I agree, the manual would benefit from more details. You will find an "issue" for that on its Github page already.The manual is open source, so feel free (or anyone else) to edit and improve it 1
sarumax Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 Doesnt work for me, anyone who can validate this example with an actual human wso?
Zabuzard Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Doesnt work for me, anyone who can validate this example with an actual human wso?Could you elaborate on what happens for you and guide us through your procedure?A video or track would be perfect. I am sure you are just missing something minor and we can quickly get you on track thenOtherwise I would just recommend any of the great YouTube tutorials on the matter.
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