Carrier/Wind question

[MnMailman]

Fun campaign, thanks for the massive work involved.  Question though; is there a reason why the carrier isn't heading into the wind when I'm landing at mission end?

  Have had several strong cross winds when landing that would be avoided per above irl, to my understanding.  Sop for TO and landing is always into the wind, as far as I know.

[Nix Mills]

13 hours ago, MnMailman said:

Fun campaign, thanks for the massive work involved.  Question though; is there a reason why the carrier isn't heading into the wind when I'm landing at mission end?

  Have had several strong cross winds when landing that would be avoided per above irl, to my understanding.  Sop for TO and landing is always into the wind, as far as I know.

Thanks. And no, the intent was to have the carrier on an ideal course for recovery up against the wind. Are you experiencing this in all missions or in a particular one?

[MnMailman]

2 hours ago, Nix Mills said:

Thanks. And no, the intent was to have the carrier on an ideal course for recovery up against the wind. Are you experiencing this in all missions or in a particular one?

  Thanks for the reply.  I've only done the first three and have noticed it in all of them.  I.e, in the first one the carrier course for recovery should be 224 (the wind is blowing 044 at 11 knots) but it's heading is 233 which resulted in a bad cross/quartering wind when landing.  The carrier's initial course is correct, but it changes after the dogleg at STPT 1 and 2.  The other two missions are off heading to a similar degree.
  I tried to correct it myself but since the file is understandably encrypted, that won't work.  It's not the end of the world, but it does make landing much harder than necessary and would be irl, fwiw.

Edited Thursday at 01:09 PM by MnMailman

[Kurnass1977]

21 ore fa, MnMailman ha scritto:

  Thanks for the reply.  I've only done the first three and have noticed it in all of them.  I.e, in the first one the carrier course for recovery should be 224 (the wind is blowing 044 at 11 knots) but it's heading is 233 which resulted in a bad cross/quartering wind when landing.  The carrier's initial course is correct, but it changes after the dogleg at STPT 1 and 2.  The other two missions are off heading to a similar degree.
  I tried to correct it myself but since the file is understandably encrypted, that won't work.  It's not the end of the world, but it does make landing much harder than necessary and would be irl, fwiw.

Noticed too,even if landing is possible think OP is right about TO and recovery is done into the wind IRL...

[Nix Mills]

23 hours ago, MnMailman said:

  Thanks for the reply.  I've only done the first three and have noticed it in all of them.  I.e, in the first one the carrier course for recovery should be 224 (the wind is blowing 044 at 11 knots) but it's heading is 233 which resulted in a bad cross/quartering wind when landing.  The carrier's initial course is correct, but it changes after the dogleg at STPT 1 and 2.  The other two missions are off heading to a similar degree.
  I tried to correct it myself but since the file is understandably encrypted, that won't work.  It's not the end of the world, but it does make landing much harder than necessary and would be irl, fwiw.

Let's see, I'm checking the settings in mission 1 and using true north from the map (not in-game magnetic north, which is +5 degrees).

On the map you'll see that the carrier has a Z-shaped course. This is because it starts out going up against the wind for departures, heading SW, then turns NE so as not get too far away from the coast (to reduce your commute), and then turn on a SW heading again to its WP3. By the time you return, carrier should be on course for WP3.

Yes, the wind is blowing in direction 044 degrees (coming from 224). The carrier has an angled deck of 9 degrees to port side, therefore to get as much of the wind blowing over the deck, the carrier is on course 233 as you say (224-9). The wind is only 11 knots (in some other missions only 5 kts), so you'll still have most of the wind coming from the direction of the carrier.

I've linked to this image from Minsky's post dated September 15, 2022.

Edited 17 hours ago by Nix Mills

[AndyJWest]

To get the wind over the deck directly down the angle for landing, you need to do some maths (I think I've seen a tool for this somewhere), or determine the course by trial and error, using the LSOs Display. The optimum BRC will depend on the wind speed and angle, and the speed of the boat. 

27 kts, 3 degrees off from the angle.

31 kts, straight down the angle.

 

 

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by AndyJWest