arnon Posted July 4 Posted July 4 I've been doing F-16C training missions and was working on my AIM-120 taring when the July 2025 update was released. Everything was going fine up to this point, but after the update, the radar, and possibly a adversary AI aircraft too stopped working properly. I'm attaching an example track file, but I tried it on multiple training missions - ones that I flew several times before, and ones that I didn't fly before, and in none of them the radar functioned correctly. Basically, either the targets never showed up on the radar, regardless of range, or they would show up somewhere other than where they were supposed to, only to disappear after locking them. After some time another target may show up in some apparently random location, bu that too would either disappear after a few seconds or disappear after locking it. Regardless how long I flew, no target adversary showed up visually anywhere, let alone getting to a position to be able to fire a weapon. I advanced in my training sufficiently to be familiar with the missions and their very predictable pattern, and it no longer functions as before. I tried to go back to the previous version (.\DCS_Updater.exe update 2.9.17.11733) but that didn't repair the situation. I tried repairing the installation via the launch screen file screen. Same result. I uninstalled DCS completely, re-downloaded it. Installed, installed my modules and maps - same result. Basically The F-16 is completely useless, at least for A-A (I did not progress to A-G yet, so I just don't know whether it works there). I did not try to make my own A-A mission to see whether it's a training-mission-only problem, so I cannot report on anything other than the bundled missions. I saw some posts from a long time ago about somewhat similar problems, but only saw posts with no fixes or posts where DCS updates from over 2 years ago fixed things - so I don't see those posts as particularly relevant. No idea how to proceed from here... Can anyone assist with this? Lesson 12 - AIM-120 BC Air-Air Missles.miz_04072025_16-57.trk Lesson 11 - AIM-9 LM Air-Air Missles.miz_04072025_17-22.trk
arnon Posted July 4 Author Posted July 4 (edited) More information: I downloaded an F-16 BVR mission from the forums to try it out, and in this case, the radar and weapon deployment worked (see attached track file). At least I think it worked correctly, because in this mission the is an AWACS involved, and in my training I have not progressed yet to that stage - so I'm not sure it worked exactly as it should, but I was able to lock, track, and shoot down a target with and AIM-120. So perhaps this problem is only with training missions. But those are all consistently broken for me... Lesson 11 - AIM-9 LM Air-Air Missles.miz_04072025_17-22 (downloaded mission).trk Correction 2: On a subsequent attempt on the same mission, I had the same problem - radar incorrect. Targets disappearing and reappearing randomly. Even targets that are visual. Edited July 6 by arnon
AndrewDCS2005 Posted July 13 Posted July 13 (edited) @arnon I looked at your track - note the radar antenna elevation caret position (two notches above vertical center) and the resulting radar scan altitudes (next to acquisition cursor) being 99kft/97kft. Your radar just points up to the sky, not ahead of you. This might be a result of some key/control binding for ANT ELEV knob on the throttle, which is moved all the way to the "up" I also run the F-16C training mission for AIM-120, without any changes - this is what the CRM page looks like, radar pointing straight forward, with scan altitudes from 12kft to 36kft Edited July 13 by AndrewDCS2005
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