ViperAceEX stick with shaker attachment for stick: force sensing but what exactly is the shaker kit mimicking?

[BluesRocket]

Nearly everyone I know in my two F-16 groups has this stick but without the shaker attachment, and do well with formations and AAR. My VKB stick was all over the place no matter what I tried to do with tuning and control with my hands. I'd had enough and went back to my TM F-16 stick since I could at least sit in formation acceptably (still no luck with AAR). THat didn't last long so it was a long shot so I placed my order and got the ViperAce EX stick and throttle (EX). I went with the shaker kit for the stick as I enjoy the experience I get with my haptic pad, and thought that would be cool to have haptic sensations all over.

My understanding is that this stick, with or without the shaker kit with the two extra hats, is NOT a force feedback stick. It's just force sensing. So the force feedback checkbox remains unchecked. BUT, the newer F-16 settings under special should be checked to take advantage of actual stick. How well it mimics it is beyond me, but those deadzones are huge. How best to use them?

Also, any recommendations on what file to download for the shaker option. Frankly, I've tried three and I can't actually feel much. Perhaps that's how it really works. 

Thanks in advance.

[mkel2010]

The only Winwing base that is force sensing is the MFSSB base; the Orion II base is the analog base. The shaker kit is meant to give feedback through the stick when you're pulling Gs, firing ordinance, landing, etc. I've had the Orion II base with the F16EX grip without the shaker kit for awhile. I recently got the shaker kit and had the same question about getting it to work. The video below explains how to get it to work about half way through. Basically, you have to have SimApp Pro running, go to the Dynamic Vibration Motor page and chose the game and aircraft. On the Game icon there is a Settings option. Click on that and you get a window that lets you chose Default or Advanced. Default gives you basic shaker behavior while advanced allows you access to downloading other profiles from users or creating a new one on your own. I ended up using a profile uploaded by Reflected. Once downloaded, you will have a run button and three dots. The three dots will open another window with an Edit tab. This allows you to adjust the settings. I haven't a clue what the best settings are. You'll find that the shaker is very subtle. It's not going to even come close to vibrating the stick out of your hand.

 

Unless you have the MFSSB base, set the settings in the Special menu to on and the dead zones to Zero. If you need dead zones for the Orion base, set them in the Controls section.

 

Edited 10 hours ago by mkel2010