REL Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Hey guys I have created a simple mission with the MP so I can practice JTAC operations. I have placed an IP on the map about 15NM from the targets. The JTAC engaging the targets vie FAC - Engage Group option. When contacting the JTAC he omits this IP from the 9-line. Am I doing something wrong or that's just a known bug??? Flight Manual P647: The JTAC will now read the 9-line as follows: 1. The Initial Point (IP) that the attack should be started from. This is a point created in the Mission Editor and is a NAV point in the CDU 2. Attack heading to the target and any offset needed 3. Distance to target 4. Elevation of target (MSL) 5. Target type 6. UTM coordinates of target 7. How the target is marked (None, White Phosphorus (WP), Laser, or IR Pointer) 8. Location of nearby friendly ground forces 9. Control point to egress to GUI Manual P180: CALLSIGN. Select the IP callsign (ID) of the point from the list of eight available choices. This is the callsign that the JTAC will use. :( Edited December 19, 2011 by REL
Arkle Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Weird, everything looks ok. My JTACs are correctly reporting the IP in my missions with version 1.1.1.1 Can you upload your mission here and let us try it? I've attached a quick and simple mission I made with 1.1.1.1 in which you use a LGB to attack a armed building via JTAC laser designation. I also uploaded the track file. The IP in the nine line brief works fine is this instance.Jtac laser designated house target.mizjtack laser guided attack on house.trk
Arkle Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Ok, same results as you on my sim. I think what is happening is that your JTAC is positioned too far away from his targets (he doesn't have a clear line of sight) for either a Type 1 or Type 2 attack, and is therefore causing him to go to Type 3 (the least restrictive). In this scenario the JTAC does not have eyes on either the target or the attacking aircraft and basically simply clears you to engage after you readback the 9 line. He doesn't care if you attack from the IP or even check in at the IP. He won't further clear you hot or anything else; it's basically "I can't see anything, go bomb stuff and let me know when you're done. I don't care how you attack it, just get it done and call me back." If you position the JTAC closer to the targets and give him a clear line of sight to them, he should then call for either a Type 1 or Type 2 attack. In either of these scenarios he is required to carefully monitor your aircraft's position and have eyes on the target. He'll now require you to attack from the IP, and furthermore report "IP Inbound", and then he'll call "Cleared Hot" after you report starting your attack run on the target. He may additionally require you to make a final attack heading to his specifications, but he'll still want to initially ingress into the target area from the IP. Try moving him in closer and see how it works for ya. If you still are having problems, holla back.
REL Posted December 20, 2011 Author Posted December 20, 2011 Ok, same results as you on my sim. I think what is happening is that your JTAC is positioned too far away from his targets (he doesn't have a clear line of sight) for either a Type 1 or Type 2 attack, and is therefore causing him to go to Type 3 (the least restrictive). In this scenario the JTAC does not have eyes on either the target or the attacking aircraft and basically simply clears you to engage after you readback the 9 line. He doesn't care if you attack from the IP or even check in at the IP. He won't further clear you hot or anything else; it's basically "I can't see anything, go bomb stuff and let me know when you're done. I don't care how you attack it, just get it done and call me back." If you position the JTAC closer to the targets and give him a clear line of sight to them, he should then call for either a Type 1 or Type 2 attack. In either of these scenarios he is required to carefully monitor your aircraft's position and have eyes on the target. He'll now require you to attack from the IP, and furthermore report "IP Inbound", and then he'll call "Cleared Hot" after you report starting your attack run on the target. He may additionally require you to make a final attack heading to his specifications, but he'll still want to initially ingress into the target area from the IP. Try moving him in closer and see how it works for ya. If you still are having problems, holla back. Thanks Arkle, I tried and you are right :thumbup:
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