nonomnismoriar Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) First of all Hi to all here in the forum! I’m from Austria and for a while a reader in this great and very kind forum. I have a big problem right now and out of ideas – in the hope someone here can help me. Have BS for quite a while but seriously I started to play some weeks ago. I learned to love this game and was very pleased to see that in the meantime BS2 arrived – ordered the update-version as soon as I saw it. My flight instruments are the Thrustmaster Warthog and the Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs (I know they’re not realistic in this helicopter but the use of the keys works great for me), TrackIR 5 and my system is Win7 Home 64bit. I have made myself a configuration for the input devices in the Thrustmaster TARGET software and all worked perfectly in BS – started to play the campaign. In the middle of the campaign I saw BS2 has come out for some time and I couldn’t resist to buy it. So after installing BS2 and the update v1.1.1.1 a few days later I realized that some buttons on the joystick/throttle and on the MFDs suddenly aren’t working anymore. After doing some research I found out that all buttons mapped over the TARGET software which contain a modifier (SHIFT, CTRL, etc.) are not recognized by BS2 – so the game does recognize the button but only without the modifier (for example: I’ve programmed “SHIFT+A” to a button on the MFD and when I press that button in the game, it only recognizes the “A”). I did read in the patch notes that the v1.1.1.1 has broken the joystick configurations with the custom modifier keys, but I didn’t use any custom modifier keys. I just programmed the original key-layout in the TARGET software. The only thing is that I used the german-version of BS and in lack-of-availability bought the english-version of BS2. I deleted all the original-modifiers in the game-options and put them in again – nothing. So now I tried to delete the input-folder in the “C.\User\...\Saved Games\DCS Black Shark 2”-folder to reset all controls to default. I looked in the games in the options/controls section and tried a configured button but still the same. I even reconfigured the TARGET profile and changed all the german key-layout to the english key-layout but no success. A complete reinstallation is the only thing I haven’t tried yet because I’m in the middle of the campain and fear that it won’t help. I also know that I can use the input controls without the TARGET software but it is not possible to map all keys as I want and I think if it worked before it should work with BS 2 also (hopefully). Thanks very much in advance for all help!!! Steve Edited December 20, 2011 by nonomnismoriar Problem solved Non Omnis Moriar!
GregP Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 The 1.1.0.9 patch introduced the really annoying change that controllers which sent commands from outside the sim (i.e. were not assigned using DCS's in-game options menu but instead passed key combo through utilities like TARGET) that included modifiers, had to have manual 'pause' commands added to their profiles, between the modifier and the key, in order for DCS to recognize both the modifier and the key. There was a discussion over here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=77788 I haven't installed 1.1.1.1 yet, and don't really understand how it changed controller inputs, but I wonder if your problem has anything to do with above.
nonomnismoriar Posted December 20, 2011 Author Posted December 20, 2011 Thank you very very much for your help GregP!!! I've now reinstalled the complete game (incl. patch) - just to be sure. Didn't solve the problem - I thought so, anyway. Worked your link through (I always forget that the 2 games work on the same engine, that for I didn't do any search in the A-10C forums - sorry), tested a little with the TARGET software and it seems that I found a solution. I have to program the configuration of buttons pressed which include modifiers in another way than before. My programming was for example: Autopilot - Altitude = LSHIFT+a (this was one event) now it looks like this in TARGET: Autopilot - Altitude = LSHIFT (press) a (press) a (release) LSHIFT (release) 4 events to program but it seems to work as I tried in the control options and the game would always take the push of my MFD-button as "LSHIFT a". The delays don't need to be changed by the way, tried it with 50ms and with "default" - worked both ways. Again thank you very much for the link - it is more work than before but the main thing is that I can play! Greetings! Non Omnis Moriar!
GregP Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Glad to hear you found a solution. In general I've found that explicitly including both press and release functions does indeed lead to less problems (with a variety of sims, actually). So while your issue is slightly different from what I was talking about (pauses needed in programs other than TARGET, such as SST and MacroWorks), I'm glad that thread keyed you in to the solution.
nonomnismoriar Posted December 20, 2011 Author Posted December 20, 2011 Yes - I can tell you I'm glad too. I've right now reprogrammed the joystick and the throttle and tested the buttons again inside the game - everything works fine, every button pressed is recognized by the game, even if you press them quickly a few times, no prob. Just have to reprogramm the MFDs tomorrow - too much work for today, just going to sleep right now. Thank you again and I wish you a merry christmas! Greetings! PS: How can I change the post-title - want to add "problem solved" but it seems I'm not able to find it? Non Omnis Moriar!
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