Mouse Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 In anticipation of CA, I was doing a lot of fiddling today with the map editor and ground units. I wanted to see how they currently behaved in DCS World. Generally I think I had pleasant, educational results, but like any good tests they raised some questions. I noticed that TOWs on both sides had fairly abysmal performance. Some tests with Abrams vs T-80s got me thinking. That thinking and testing lead, ultimately, to a fairly comical scenario. 10 ATGM Strykers vs 1 T-55 at a distance of about 0.5nm on open ground. The results were kind of shocking. 10 burning Strykers and not a single hit the T-55. Prior that test I watched 4 Strykers at range on higher ground get mauled and obliterated by 4 BMP-3 traveling on a road that took 0 losses themselves. Up to that point I had never seen an ATGM Styker strike an enemy unit, and I had used a handful of them in other quick scenes I'd created. That is what finally prompted me to just surround a T-55 with them. Aside from the rather pathetic showing by Strykers, I noticed missiles fired by ground vehicles in DCS were only slightly more effective than tracer rounds. Rather than point the finger at DCS, I'm curious to learn about the effective performance of these kinds of weapons. I was under the impression that they worked quite a lot better than they seem to here. What range should they be used at? Just how reliable are they in the real world? Do we really know? It just seems jarring to me that Mavericks and Hellfires rarely miss in DCS but the BGM-71 TOW (and other weapons) just miss, miss, miss all day long. I recognize that DCS ground units now are not DCS ground units with CA installed, but I can't help but wonder.
blahdy Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 Vehicle launched ATGMs are under-modelled right now, I think they are working on correcting that in the near future. And ofcourse, there are some ATGMs (::cough:: 9M119M Refleks) that are over-modeled :P
Mouse Posted June 3, 2012 Author Posted June 3, 2012 To double check, I just set up a mission with 24 ATGM Strykers set at about 9000 feet (75% of the weapons stated maximum range of about 12,000 feet) from 24 T-55s. I made the the Stykers immortal so they wouldn't all die to HE. Stykers have 14 missiles each, which meant a total of 336 missiles were fired. None of them hit. Can safely say there is a problem here. Here are the .mis and .trk files from this test: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4545571/buggedTOW.miz http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4545571/buggedTOW.trk
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