Black Shark X52 Pro conflict - Button 5

[Zephyr]

Greetings ED Forums,

 

I recently got rid of an older worn HOTAS stick I was using to replace it with a new X52 Pro system along with the Saitek Pro pedals.

 

Everything seems to work fine, except for button 5 (BTN5), the left-most 'flat' button on the stick head.

 

When I enter BTN5 for the Trimmer control, it freezes the simulator and causes a forced close of the program. The weird thing is that if I enter BTN5 with a modifier, such as a keyboard shortcut, or BTN7 on the throttle which I also use as a modifier, it works just fine. It's only when I use BTN5 alone ... and it is at the moment that I hit the 'OK' button that everything freezes and has to be closed.

 

The idea was to use BTN5 for the Trimmer, and BTN5 + BTN7 as the Trimmer Reset, as I understand this is a common way of doing it. But regardless of what I enter BTN5 (alone) for, it crashes the program. I've been searching the forums for about 3 days looking for the answer to this specific problem but so far I haven't found any solution.

 

Is there anything I can change, check or modify to test why BTN5 is crashing the program when entered? Thank you.

[Erforce]

Are you talking about the "C" button ?

mine is sensitive, but i use it for trim too without problem. Although for reset, pinkie+C is simpler.

Is it programmed via SST or internal DCS ? Mine is SST, but you could try assigning this button via BS settings. Hope your cables are all right too. if you see some lights flickering, it's not good.

[Zephyr]

Hey Erforce, Yes you are correct, it is button 'C'. It shows up as JOY_BTN5 in the BS control profile options.

 

It works fine if I assign it along with a modifier. For example, the Trimmer Reset is currently set to JOY_BTN5 + JOY_BTN7 and it works fine to reset the Trim, but if I try to assign BTN5 alone -no modifier- that's when is crashes the program (the moment I hit the 'OK' button to assign it). There are no blinking lights, and as far as I can tell no other button or joystick control crashes the program. Only BTN5. Everything else seems to work perfectly.

 

I'm using BTN7 as a modifier (secondary function type thing) so I can cram as many controls as I can into the stick and throttle so I'll seldom have to take my hands off them.

 

Although I have it, I am not familiar with using SST software.

[Zephyr]

I try uninstalling and reinstalling the Saitek drivers. I also redid the stick/control commands in the DCS options-controls menu, still no joy. I add some picture to help illustrate what is happening. I add a picture of the joystick so you know what button I'm referring to.

 

 

 

Here is the main DCS controls menu. The trim reset is currently set to JOY_BTN5 + JOY_BTN7 as a modifer. This works good.

 

Next is a picture of the dialog box, where a joystick button can be assigned to a BS control, in this case which is JOY_BTN5 to the trim.

 

As soon as I hit the 'OK' button to make the change, I next get a program crash as you will see in the picture. I have checked and double checked the X52 Pro. There seem to be no problem as everything else is working very flawlessly. Does anyone please have any suggestion?

[Erforce]

Wait, you don't use SST at all?

Did you tried it at least for that button? Its not really hard to understand. I use it all the time. only way to use the mini-stick and 3modes+clutch...

tell me.

[Zephyr]

No I don't use SST. For a number of reasons.

 

1. You can not program 2 buttons to do 1 thing, like what I've been talking about.

2. If an SST profile is active, many of the button functions I have programmed in DCS will not function correctly or will not function at all.

3. SST is known for causing crashes or freezes.

 

Honestly I don't see the point of using SST when everything can be programmed in DCS. Or at least you should be able to. Frankly SST seems a bit anemic to me. If I setup a SST profile many of my other functions programmed in DCS will not work. What I'm trying to do is actually extremely simple, which is to use button 7 as a modifier button. It's like using any other key on a keyboard to modify another key or button, except it's a key/button located on the throttle. This way I can literally double the function of each button on my stick and throttle. Just one example of that is I can use POV HAT 2 to not just slew the shkval, but also then zoom and frame the shkval simply by holding button 7. Does that makes sense?

 

It's based on a profile that Puddlemonkey posted a few years ago here

 

http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=83752&page=2

 

 

It is actually working very well, all except for button 5 or 'C' button. As far as my button 5 goes, it works in everything else, and it lights up on the applet panel when installing the drivers. The problem is in BS and I would like to figure out what it is.