Hi i have been using the hf8 for quite a while now ,i have used the nlr software ,seems to work ok in dcs ,but i use ssa software with the sound module add on with a small amp and a couple of transducers on the flight stick and under the throttle stick ,to be honest with you i just cant fly in dcs without haptic s now !!!! got the ch47 but cant get that working yet ,i think using the ssa software you lose a couple of tranducers working so to speak ,but that never bothers me .