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Excellent, thank you very much!

Next questions and let me start by saying I really appreciate all of you that have been helping me. TDC hat. I am running through the Harrier Tutorials right now and am up to the NAV lesson. It gets to the part where it is telling me to move my waypoint using my TDC hat but I am getting nothing. I got to ADJUST CONTROLS and I see that the button on my HOTAS that I am using for it is indeed connected to the TDC axises and is showing responsive. But in game I get nothing????? I tried using TDC down button. TDC ACTION/NO ACTION. But not combination I try seems to get a response. I also went over to my TPOD to see if I could get it to slew but got nothing over there either. Of course, I haven't hit the TPOD lesson yet so that may be a complete lack of knowledge on what to do over there on my part as well. Any assistance or guidance is appreciated. Thank you!

Thanks, yeah, I am working my way through the training missions now and am having a blast. The F-14 is awesome but this Harrier sure does make up for its lack of afterburner with all the other cool stuff it can do!

You are awesome! Thanks!

OK, so I got that working. Turns out that patience is the trick. I was expecting to see start up immediately like in most other aircraft and started flipping switches which was jacking up the start up process when I heard sounds but didn't see immediate indications. Thank you so much for the guidance. If I can ask for some more help. I am trying to do the INS alignment. I put the switch into GRD, select EHDS(I know I got that initials wrong), DATA, AC. But all I see is two lines on my UFD????? No inputs expected. What am I doing wrong? Thanks again!

Thank you so much for the advice. I will try that right away!

OK, back with the same problem. Seems like I have no problem doing start up in the tutorial but if I try in the instant action I have no luck. Is it just me or am I doing something wrong. Battery is on. EFC is on. Fuel lever is on. Manual Fuel is off. JPT is on. Throttle lever is FULL back (checked it is in the actual full shutoff position). Eng Start SW on. This is where nothing happens. The engine sounds like it is spooling up and apu switch goes out but I see no indications. If I throw the throttle forward into the idle position still no indications. I am sitting there with no engine indications, apu off, but with the sounds that there is engine operation. Please tell me what I am missing! Thank you so much!

Figured out the start up! So please disregard. Thank you so much though for anyone who may have already spent time taking a look!

So I bought the AV-8 a couple years ago but I have been really invested in the the helo's as a former Chinook pilot myself. I decided to start messing around with the fixed wing modules I purchased but am having a heck of a time with the Harrier. In the start up tutorial I am finding MFD pages the tutorial is telling me to go to non-functional. I tried running a cold and dark free flight and though the engine sounds like it is starting, power is applied to the airframe, and the apu switch is in the off position as it should be I have zero engine indications or movement. Is it just me needing to pay closer attention to the guide or are there problems with this module? Again, just asking so I know whether to dig deeper into the guide or sit tight and wait for a known fix to known issues. Thank you so much!

I found a great youtube video set from a current CH-47F pilot titled 47Driver! I definetely recommend his channel for good info on the H-47 in DCS!

One more. Brake pedals are not working from the left seat. As the one time brakes are most often used (4 wheel taxi) and the added fact this is always done from the left seat this is a definite “please fix!”

I just started getting this: I haven't made any changes to my computer since the last time I successfully opened it???? I am trying to run in VR mode? Is that it maybe???

OH, and totally petty here. I would set the overhead counsel FADEC panel LOADSHARE TRQ/PTIT switch to a default of TRQ. We never operated in PTIT except RARE situations, usually enviromental extremes, so that switch was alway in the TRQ position right off.

Oh, one more thing I have noticed. The EAPS lights should not come on if the EAPS are not installed. If I recall the system correctly you had to have the actual cans installed in order to close the circuit to allow the lights to illuminate and then they only came on if the switch was in the on position and: "Pressure switch within No. 1/2 EAPS has sensed a pressure differential of 10 psi, indicating a partial blockage of inlet air." That is from the CH-47D operators manual 31 Jan 2003 which is APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE. Also, when you turn the FADEC BU power switch on you should get some warnings and cautions. I know in the D models it was 6 and 2. FADEC 1 and 2, REV 1 and 2, ENG FAIL 1 & 2, and the two master cautions. They should come on and then go out in 12 seconds. That is from the CH-47D MTF manual 31 Jan 2003 which is APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE.

Sir or Ma'am, As an old CH-47D/F PIC and MTP I can say I LOVE your product. Obviously it has a lot of work before the final product but I think you are well on your way to an awesome simulator. Here are some of my takeaways from my run through of the start up that you are probably already aware of but if not then I hope they help. Before I get started here, let me start with saying I have still not been given permission to reference my old CH-47F materials so I have purposely not done so. So everything I discuss here is going off nearly 10 year old memory or CH-47D manuals. So if you think you have better information on a topic I bring up all I can say is you are probably right! 1. DAFCS. I understand this is a work in progress. So take what I say here with a grain of salt and a lot of paitence. Currently what you have going seems to be a hybrid between AFCS on and AFCS off. With AFCS on the aircraft should maintain pitch, roll, and yaw attitudes and heading based off the last place you pressed the CDR. That is regardless of weather you have any type of holds or other advanced features engaged or not. Additionally, when flying in forward flight AFCS on should maintain your trim automatically. To put it simply, when I was yanking and banking I could do so with my feet off the pedals because the aircraft would keep the aircraft in trim for me. Finally, at a hover that thing is going to want to keep your exact attidue and heading again regardless of any hold features engaged. One of the checks we did for maintenance test flights was to push the aircraft out of their set postions WITHOUT pushing the CDR and ensuring the aircraft returned to the last selected attitude. Going off pure memory here. I want to say for pitch, roll, and yaw it was +-1.5 degrees. Though I may be off on that. You can reference the CH-47D MTF manual to get those exact numbers. Now, AFCS off you are going to have to work the pedals and controls to keep a good attitude and trim condition at all times. 2. CDR: The CDR doesn't appear to do anything. You all have a great system in the Huey which I would love to see mirrored in the -47! 3. Flight control sweep. Right now you have it set for max forward +6.5 and max aft -4.5. If I recall the CH-47F correctly the MINIMUM control sweep should have been +7 and -4.5. The CH-47D manuals said +7 to -4 but I seem to remember the CH-47F has a bit wider margin. 4. CGI: The CGI test button does not cause the CGI to do anything. Additionally, I did not notice movement of the CGI in flight. This guage should be a quick reference performance indicator. The heavier/faster/more agressive you fly the higher that needle raises. 5. In your start up guide there is no clear explaination on spooling up the EGIs, radios, etch. I seem to remember in the old 8.4 software of the CH-47F we had to go in manually to start all that stuff up. But I can not for the love of me remember the proper sequence. I can find that the EGIs need to be turned on in your simulator so I think there is something to my memory on that so anything you have on that added into the simulator startup guide would be appreciated (unless I completely missed it then I appologize)! Oh, I will say this too. I asked a buddy of mine who just retired a year ago to guide me through the start up of all the avionics and stuff and he said "Crap man, we were on such an later software then 8.4 when I retired. All that stuff is automatic now." So maybe that would be something to incorporate into your sim. Have all those EGIs and stuff auto spool up? Well, this is what I got for now. I hope some of it may be helpful. Either way, thank you for the consideration! And again, awesome job!

Great video! Ha ha! Yeah, starting that APU is a B.... even in the real simulaor. If you do not do the timing EXACTLY it will not start. The real aircraft is less finiky!

I learned very quickly that if you try to do a search on my channel name in Youtube you get many videos, none of which have anything to do with Chinooks!

Thank you for the kind words. I will certainly be putting out more video's, especially once I figure out how not to say "uhhhh." so much! I was annoying myself when I heard myself talking! But personally, I would like to see ED put out their own videos. If for no other reason then they will defintely be of better quality then anything I put out (I am not a professional youtuber by any means and have no desire to be one) and we will know EXACTLY what they do and don't have modeled.

Thank you for the great advice. Yeah, I deffinetely do not want to piss in the Army's cherrios so I will be very careful with what I discuss or show! Thank you for the kind words! I sent a copy of a book I compiled title Tandem Rotor to ED. The book covers the entire history of the Tandem Rotor helicopter that I could find. Basically, a brief summary of every type that has existed. I was not able to upload it myself so I sent it to ED to review and, if they approve, hopefully upload it themselves. It is not a work of originality so if they do load it feel free to download the PDF and share it with anyone who may desire completely free.

Hey all, I have started making youtube videos about the Chinook. I only have the first done which is more of an introductory thing but feel free to check it out. I will try to get you all start up procedures and stuff soon! PS, please remember I am not a youtube content creator so be gentle!

Check out www.chinook-helicopter.com. They have a lot of good info on the CH-47D. Should be a good start before ED releases what they have!

Adrift is absolutely correct. 5 and 9 (Chapter 5 is the limits chapter and Chapter 9 is the Emergency Procedure chapter) had to be memorized cold. Technically, non underlined emergency procedures are not required to be memorized, but it is one of those "highly desirable" things to do in the line units. Which translates "you will memorize them." This is in large part because if things do go wrong they go wrong and you will have multiple emergencies happening at any given time. So you really don't have time to be flipping back and forth. For example, if you have an engine fire, you don't just have an engine fire, you also have a single engine failure. So were really required to know those two chapters front to back. Normal Procedures you were required to use a checklist ALWAYS! The one exception to this is when you are doing traffic pattern work. Your first take off and landing you are required to use the checklist but subsequent take off and landings you can shoot from memory. Otherwise, you better pull the checklist out and go through it no matter how familiar you are with the aircraft or the regime of flight you are in. But I am pretty sure that is all of aviation now. When I did my fixed wing transition in the civilian world I had an instructor pilot who didn't use the checklist for landing and instead just used the acronym GUMPS. I though, oh, ok, too easy. Then when I went on my pre-solo checkride I did that and the instructor pilot checking me called me and my regular IP on it. So, again, pretty sure a checklist is required in all of aviation whether some people actually do or not. Snappy fact for you, the aviation checklist was born from the B-17. After a series of mishaps the Army Air Corps almost shut down the B-17 program as "it was too much aircraft" for pilots. Boeing came up with the checklist and the Army thought it such a great idea they went with the B-17 purchase and implemented it into Army Air Corp aviation en totale! EDIT: Oh, one more point I would like to throw out. The checklist actually used in the cockpit is usually very abbreviated compared to the actual Chapter 8 Normal Procedures chapter. For example, in the Chinook the overhead counsel has A LOT of stuff going on up there. If you look just at the old CH-47D operators manual on www.chinook-helicopter.com you will see the overhead counsel has the control panels for most of the major aircraft systems. The normal procedure chapter in the operators manual will break down each panel, and often times many of the individual switches and knobs in detail. But if you then look at the CH-47D checklist it says something along the lines of "OVERHEAD PANEL - SET" So I guess my point is, in a small way memorizing the checklist is required. But you are still required to use the checklist. What helps most with overcoming major checklist steps like that where there are multiple steps for a single checklist item is eitehr coming up with an acronym or a flow. Kind of the same way a musician remembers the notes on a sheet of music!

I have requested permission to do so and asked for left and right limits. If I get permission I will certainly give this a go but please be kind, I am not a you tube creator and I imagine my stuff will not be as high speed as a lot of people!

I am glad you brought this site up. Check out www.chinook-helicopter.com! This is a great site that has TONS of information about the Chinook. System manuals, operator manuals, history, pictures, disposition of various tail numbers, etc. I believe they only have up to the CH-47D in regards to operator manuals but many of the systems are similiar. The biggest differences between the D and F is all the extras that came with the DAFCS system (namely Flight Director, Hover Hold mode, and hover beep) over the AFCS system. Additionally, having a glass cockpit versus steam guages so accessing various systems had different avenues of approach of course. But overall, same aircraft! So the website will have lots of great info for anyone interested!

I'm sure they will. An amateur did the CH-47D on X-Plane which had some obvious errors but overall was VERY good! How much better will be a professional company like ED!