afnav130
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I said months and months ago.. billable hours matter. So once you get lawyers involved..it can take YEARS. Cha Ching!
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When you get lawyers involved, that is ALWAYS the ending. I would think more and more people would understand that. Kind of like in sports when you take a player to arbitration. The player usually comes out of that different than when they went into that room. In a lot of cases, irreparable harm is done.
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Not true. People on one side have listed what they say happened. Period. Many times in fact. So one can take only 1 or 2 conclusions from that. 1) they are ALL lying through their teeth and should never ever be listened to again, or 2) what they are saying is pretty close to the truth or the complete truth period. I do find it quite interesting that the leaked chat between RB employee and a Heatblur employee is attacked as hearsay when in fact it was a legit conversation that far too many ignored or that will never change their stance on that. Quite frankly thats the only actual "evidence" that is out there and to ignore it is folly. Thats old news however and it won't change anyones mind who refuse to do so even when presented with that conversation. The usual, BS responses about it being fake, or useless or whatever will be thrown around. It's fine, this is the parent company of DCSs website, and a majority of members here are blindly in their corner. Newsflash, they aren't Razbam followers or any other 3rd party followers. It's to be expected.
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This is very true. The difference is I think they did get paid, at least initially from what I have been told. You are correct it would be ED paying RB then RB paying the devs. That isn't in dispute. The thing is, sometimes in this realm the devs work because they like doing it and hope to get paid for it. At some point it becomes untenable. I will still stand by this. ED has never posted that they have paid in full the monies required for the module sales. Or if they have even paid a portion of it and when if not, when the payments stopped.
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I'm not going to rehash what has been done here about the radar issue. One would have to look in the mirror and ask oneself...why would a coder do that? Why would they even THINK about doing that? The smart answer is self protection. Now, from what is the real question. Only one person can answer that and he ain't talking.
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If you read between the lines, the messaging from one side about what happened hasn't changed or varied in any way. The other gives a canned legalese answer that quite frankly doesn't create any good feelings. At this point I would think anything will take a year at least to resolve. ED still hasn't put a notification on the page for the E model informing people that they are buying an as it stands currently, a dead module. Thats kind of shady if you ask me. Want to keep selling it and not paying the devs? Fine, but put a big red banner that says has not been updated in 5 months and no end in sight.
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JTIDS, SIT, ToT, TSD improvements, plus a lot more.
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Negative. I tend to read whatever I can and then form my ideas off of that. Black and white is easy to comprehend. I had heard stuff about the situation, so I read that as someone who didn't know what was really going on, and came away knowing exactly what is going on. Ergo, if you read the same black and white stuff and can't come to the same conclusion, then yeah, you are wrong. I have nothing in this problem. Nothing. I don't care who is wrong, what I am interesting is who is right. More people could learn something from that.
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Would text messages between parties that aren't to or from the third party not be allowed? There was a court case in MA just a few weeks ago that texts between two friends about a third party was entered into evidence. Methinks nobody knows the law around here. Just admit you don't want to hear or see anything that would contradict your strong, and quite frankly, unhealthy viewpoints. People do realize I am referencing the Skype conversation right? Not some banter between posters on a forum.
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Wait so something that would be admitted in court, and a conversation between two parties about a third party isn't relevant? It's only relevant if you don't want to read something that goes against what you believe. Which this seems to be exactly that.
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Umm a conversation between two individuals, fairly lengthy with principles talking to each other isn't factual? In fact that would easily be admitted into court as evidence. So yeah I don't understand what you are talking about.
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How is it a conspiracy theory if it is factual information? I read it with my own eyes. So I am supposed think that what I read wasn't what I read?
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Orrrr..some things came to light that motivated a party to get moving...just wondering..
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I haven't been paying too much attention but just yesterday saw the "conversation". Makes things a whole lot clearer. A whole lot.
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Yeah, pay the people who do the work, and work out your issues with the leadership. If anything, pay them what they are owed for work done, not for anything new. We still don't know if ED paid them anything at all.
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I don't think the SE "spooked" anyone what I DO think it was a wakeup call to other devs who were basically sleep walking in a lot of ways. The 16 iirc was all of sudden getting INU drift updates and radar updates etc etc. Seemed to come pretty hot and heavy to me last least. So yeah, the 15E imo did a lot of good just being released.
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It means 500 kts Ground Speed.
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Where did I say it was the pinnacle? I just said it was pretty damn good for an EA module right at release, far better than the 16 and 18. Multi crew is cool etc, but what other module in DCS right now can you take a jet at 500G, 200FT at night in the weather (by weather I mean in the fog/clouds) and make it to a target? It is a DCS game changer up with the multi crew and A-G radar introduction.
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Yeah because the 15E was horrible when it came out. Even now it's a pretty damn good module. Ever hear of a TFR system in DCS ever before? You know, the thing that DCS has never had? And it's incredible. How about the HRM that is insanely good?
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Disgree. About 30 years ago, everyone went lawyer happy. That is a real thing. Look at someone wrong. Lawyer. Trip over a sprinkler on someone's lawn? Lawyer.
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You do know that Notso here, was an IRL SE WSO AND he was the WSO SME for the SE correct? It should be. Society has dictated otherwise.
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They had the Flight Sim Expo here in Houston last year. I passed on it becuase its mostly geared to the civvie sims from what I saw.
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Ooof now a person from RB who I am sure will be discredited has stated that ED didn't pay HB for over a year when the 14 was released. No wonder the HB stuff was bandied about a little bit when this started and RB mentioned it but HB remained radio silent. Now that all makes sense.
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if I know I can bleed the other party dry and only take a moderate hit, sure as hell I will be happy to do that. I am sure there is some smoke here and there for sure.
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FACT is they haven't said they have or have't been paying. So you are stating something that they haven't publicly stated? The true reason, nobody knows. But here you are saying ED has been withholding funds which nobody knows for sure outside of the RB people and what they have stated. So are you agreeing with them on this? I would assume so. Like I said, I think you need a lawyer so you don't get yourself twisted into a pretzel. Pissed off? Hardly, the DCS world isn't even in the top 5 of my daily life events or even top of my fun list. I don't care who comes out on top in all of this, just that it gets resolved and resolved asap. That would require as I stated the principles on both sides growing up and fixing it sans lawyers for the betterment of the group in general. Cooler heads always prevail and then that doesn't happen, this is what you get. As I also stated a while ago, nobody is covered in glory here and each entity will have a permanent stain on them.
