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As someone who also stopped buying anything DCS related, I can say it comes down to one simple reason, at least for me. You said one party might be wrong, while the other is right - and I agree with that. But I cannot judge, with the current information publicly available, who's at fault. It's easy to blame ED, blowing up the entire relationship over what appears to be a limited IP dispute is ridiculous. That said, it’s less clear what RAZBAM's role in all of this really is, but they absolutely share the responsibility of resolving the dispute on their end. I am not blaming RAZBAM for going public about this dispute, this is probably the one thing RAZBAM did right - when a developer is no longer able to support or update their products, informing customers becomes necessary. If they had stayed silent, the backlash would’ve come anyway, just delayed and fueled by confusion. What bothers me is that a large part of the community seems to have latched onto the idea that “RAZBAM went public, therefore RAZBAM caused the problem.” That’s backward logic. Communicating a crisis isn’t the same as causing one. However, some RAZBAM developers sharing own information through unofficial channels and therefore causing unnecessary confusion and speculation definitely won't help and ultimately weakens RAZBAM's case. That said, their official statements by R. Zambrano, through their official announcement channel, have been solid and professional so far. Anyway, I cannot trust any party involved with my money right now, so unless the circumstances of this dispute are either more transparent to the consumers or this dispute is resolved with a (hopefully) good outcome (e.g. RAZBAM modules being properly supported again), I will not buy any more DCS products for now - that is a decision I have taken for myself as a consumer. Bottom line is: my trust in the DCS ecosystem is shattered, and it's up to ED now, as the main developer and the party ultimately responsible for the direction DCS takes, to earn that trust back.

Agreed, the Mig-19 will be my first DCS purchase when this is hopefully resolved. Until then I continue to keep my wallet closed!

Except the F-15E isn't marked as Early Access on Steam...

Mig-19P: "Am I a joke to you?!" Seriously why do people always forget this lovely aircraft...

Not possible, that would be a breach of Razbams IP on EDs part

Atm it seems like a Polychop internal issue, there is no need for ED to respond themselves unless it gets worse imho. Tbf information security is generally the responsibility of the respective companies, if information leaks into the public, information security has failed. And the public will discuss it if it's of public interest. I can understand it if ED doesn't want discussion about leaked internal information (from both ED and their partners) in their own moderated spaces and forums, and they have every right to do so imho. But questions arise nonetheless and should be addressed by Polychop (or ED if necessary).

Where is that from, what source did Casmo share? I don't use Facebook

"you are assuming to much, "

Understood, but I am a bit confused what is the purpose of this thread then?

This is of course valid, but then it's sad ED chose a risky method of pressure that jeopardized the trust of the customers and other 3rd parties. Razbam, according to them, never saw any money from the Strike Eagle sales, so the dispute is at least going on since its release, maybe even longer. Why did ED accept the Strike Eagle and sold it in the first place then? They could have terminated their contract with Razbam instead for example. It wouldn't have affected other modules. Let me rephrase it: Why accepting a new product from a party, while such party is in violation of a contract?

The "Why", as claimed by ED, is an alleged IP violation by Razbam. My question is now, why didn't ED go to court over this and kept paying Razbam until a court decision was made? Many lawsuits work like that and it wouldn't have affected the customers then. Is the Strike Eagle and its contract even related to that IP breach and if not why hasn't Razbam received any money from its sales. And should it turn out in court, that Razbam is innocent, it wouldn't have damaged the game, as development could have continued as usual, not affecting the customers (us) and sales. The part that bugs me personally the most, is the fact, that ED is withholding Razbams money while continuing to sell their products. The legality of this action is questionable at least and can result in legal repercussions for ED, in case this action wasn't legal, no matter if ED wins in court or not. The "why" doesn't matter imho, as the legality of withholding payment itself is questionable, unless we don't have more official info about that my questions remain.

It is exactly that...

Razbam doesn't operate like that, it's a common misconception. CptSmiley and the others get a direct share of the sales from the modules. Ron doesn't touch their money at any point afaik. It's basically a team of different devs working together on a project under a common name.

To add to this, there is also 500+ mb Soundtrack files for the F-14, also uncompressed .wav