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Whats the scan-cone for the missile when its in "stare straight ahead" mode? My thinking is not in terms of take-off, reach periphery of combat zone, maddog all my 77s, RTB, mission complete :pilotfly: but for launching on an identified and located target without giving a warning. Well nearly every Eagle pilot seems to be firing in TWS mode, so it feels rather like that for me now anyway! How does this work in RL? Oh how I long for DCS: Mig-29 vs F-16 :(

Timing as in launching at a point that allows you to achieve burn-through soon enough after launch for the missile to track in SARH mode before going active? Heres another question: Is it possible to launch a 77 without a target lock? If so, after how long does the seeker go active? Assuming a 60 degree scancone (iirc this is the case), the seeker will cover a 14km radius circle at 25km (iirc this is the seeker range?), which is pretty decent. I imagine a maddog'd 77 would take most F-15 pilots by suprise.

Hmmm I had completely overlooked this, thanks! What about using Home on Jam launches to overcome this? I have had 0 success in the past with HOJ, does anyone really use it?

Well of course a pilot should always be trying to force an engagement on his terms, however sooner or later you and your wingman will run into two opponents coming straight at you, and having to disengage because you are unprepared for such a scenario would be a very sad thing indeed! What are peoples thoughts on payloads for the Mig-29S? It seems that 4x R-77 + 2x R-73 + Fuel is the order of the day, or even 6x R-77, however I wonder if something like this could be useful: R-77 R-77 R-27ER Fuel R-27ET R-77 R-77 I'm thinking the extra range of the ER over an AMRAAM (maybe even one launched over RMax :thumbup:) putting an F-15 on the defensive could provide a window for a successful R-77 folluw-up shot without eating an AMRAAM. Is this a "realistic" payload for a Mig-29S? I know there are payload editing programs but I don't want to use a load that isn't approved for multi-player use (like 77s on an Su-27 for example). Or is losing the R-73s too big a sacrifice given that WVR combat is perhaps the area in which the Russian aircraft have the advantage?

Thanks for the offer Case! I fly as SHOGUN normally but that name was taken on the forums. Cali: When theres no launch warning, and the poor bugger has to keep closing to get his R-77 off, firing a 120 at RMax isn't really a bad thing is it?

What kind of range are we talking here GG? Around 25km? Is this still effective if the F-15 goes cold and extends at full power after launch? Or is this negated by the F-pole? Flying last night on 51st server (great server guys!) we had much more success with better use of vertical separation. IT definitely seems to be making the simultaneous engagement harder for the F-15s.

Really great tips so far guys, thanks. The idea of a BVR wheel had already occured to me, but it seems like something that will take a lot of practise and very good reading of the TWS to pull off, which I am rather lacking at the moment :joystick: Any info on the 2 target engagement mode hinted at in the FC 2 manual?

Thanks for your reply! Great tips! With regards to being painted, does this mean when the RWS switches from beeps with a long pause to ones with a short interval, or does it mean the solid lock tone? Cheers! EDIT: Ah sorry have just seen your edit, thanks!

Comrades, For a few months myself and a fellow defender of the motherland have struggled in vain to defeat the capitalist enemy and their "AMRAAM" missile with our trusty R-27ER and R-77. We have experimented with F-poleing, notching, combinations of them, you name it, but are very much struggling to come out of a 2 vs 1 situation with a kill and no losses, let alone doing the same in 2 vs 2. The main problem we have is the TWS mode the F-15 enjoys; engaging two targets at once is already a big deal, but doing it without them having a launch warning? Thats a scary advantage. Our main success seems to be coming from launching an R-77 or two and then disengaging rather than guiding the missile in to pitbull, but of course this rarely works against an opponent with his wits about him. So, I as you, what strategies would you suggest for making the most of the capabilities of the Russian aircraft in Lock-On 2.0? Is it possible to "mad-dog" an R-77 without giving your target a launch warning? Finally, Are there any tell tales for a TWS amraam launch, other than visually identifying or a change of bearing? On a side note, the manual states that the Mig-29S is capable of engaging 2 targets simultaneously, but I assume this hasn't been modeled in the game? Any particular reason for this? I feel I need all the help I can get! Over and out... :thumbup: