Chayton

Well i asked the Saitek support and both joysticks dont have automaticly recalibration, too bad.

Hmm yeah i tried the joystick at diffrent games (X2 for example) and i didnt had there that many problems, been a bit of lightly flashing up and down if you had it centered but that was all. Reset? you mean as reseting this stupid automatical recalibrating thing that joystick have these days (been much better where you could do it still manual)? Hmmm did not knew you could do that, sounds interresting thought and worth a try, you know maybe were i could get the saitek program that can reset this or one in general? Or do you mean something else?

Been a while since i played it (stopped because i was a bit annoyed at those problems and that i wanted to create a cool map for our lan parties and the game (i assume the engine arent made for having a war going on in one map hu?) simple could not handle it anymore allthought i was just at the begin of the building progress) however back then we used to have patch 1.02 and while in the Microsoft options the joystick worked alright, (not perfect i admit) in the game (no changes at first) it was a complete mess. We read then in the LOMAC forums about it which said something about in a file switching off the Force Feedback as it was automatical always set to on, and increase the number of the "gameplay" of the joystick or so, that it doesnt react that harsh. Then it worked better however you still had to adjust quiet trastical the deathzones so you could finally fly but you still had sometimes those black outs where you just made a small move and the plane crashed in the ground. As at no games ever i had to make any of such changes that a joystick worked ok (been playing games since 13 years), in my eyes i can only call that joystick problems which i assume simple came from the Ubisoft pushing. So now you may know why i wonder whatever that got fixed in Flaming Cliffs. Back when i looked this up it seemed that quiet a lot had such joystick problems, i am sure that there are some that never had them, as i said my brother had none either (once that force feedback was switched off thought) And yeah diffrent sticks on diffrent PC's. Thanks for the link and any further help you can give me.

Thats true. But doesnt change the fact that Lock On limits you on what aircrafts you can fly, compared to those that there are in the game. Only because the others limit you even more doesnt it mean that Lock On doesnt. Mostly the balancing of the fighters i would like them to fix. Sure if you have worked your way into russian technoligy you have 4 Aircrafts to fly, while if your more into american techoligy just 2. With FC and the new add on that goes up to 6 against 2. And i just said what i would wish, cant image that some of you would not want to fly a diffrent aircraft thats already in the game for once.

Saitek ST50. My friend has the same problems and has a Saitek ST110. Only my brother didnt have joysticks problems however he used the one of his pilot training program, which is a Thrust i think, not really suited for a military flight sim. Thats why i said normal joysticks, i dont count the X45 under normal joysticks, as its a flight sim specified joystick i assume you are not playing with that a game like NHL.

I am thinking of getting Flaming Cliffs, however what has been a major pain in the orginal game was that awefull support/proper working of normal joysticks. You had to adjust a lot of things and it still didnt worked right. Thats really frustrating and pisses me many times off. So before i go ahead and give out more money on this game i would rather like to know whatever there are still this joystick problems with normal joysticks, or if you can now be sure that the joystick will work like it does in the microsoft joystick option window, without that you have to adjust anything?

Allthought that Helicopter is sure nice and that Eagle is more a russian company, so sure has more inside into russian aircrafts for a add on i would finally wish that you get the ability to fly more aircrafts of those that are already in the game. Lock On gives you so many free things in what you can do, yet it limits you very much on what aircrafts you can fly. While i worked on a map i wished so many times that i could go and fly that Tornado i added, or that F-14, or that F-16, or that F-5, or even that Hercules :), etc. Thats the thing i really miss in Lock On, that you have to replace flyable aircrafts if you just tired for a while of those that you can fly. I would prefer that over any helicopter addition, but i guess that will stay a wish. Btw nice that you havent abandon the game like Ubisoft did, this game is awesome, wish more flight sims would be that detail fanatic.