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That would end them at the UN.

I've never liked hit-to-kill. Doomed to failure. Most SAM/AAMs don't even have a good record for getting close. Besides that, peace can only come through an Israeli failure. Who knows, maybe Iran, Syria and Egypt will go hell for leather simultaneously.

One drawback. Syria also have P-800s. http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/russia-exports-sophisticated-cruise-missiles-syria/ And they have Iskander-E too. Same range as LORA, faster (Mach 6-7) and 1500lb warhead. CEP - 30m http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/ss-26-iskander-e.htm Fuel Air Explosive/EMP/sub-munitions warhead? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-26 http://missilethreat.com/missiles/iskander-ss-26/ Several Smerch systems could also keep the Israeli LORAs back from the border. 3M-14E is a possibility too. What I find amusing is all this 'urging Russia not to sell SAMs to Syria'. It's as if they were saving up for some kind of airstrike. http://www.voanews.com/content/kerry-urges-russia-not-to-sell-weapons-to-syria/1657835.html

That assumes the S-300s are within 300km of Israel and that the LORA system is on the border and that Hezbollah don't Kornet it (or do a BF3 troll attack with a jeep and C4).

You can't hack a system that has no wireless or hardwired connection unless you have some kind of T-X Terminator 3 technology. Besides, Israel are no geniuses, Anonymous soon shut them down. What can you take it out with that's immune to getting shot down itself, missile or aircraft? If well setup and operated by Russians the only solace may be that it can only fire so many SAMs consecutively. I'll be blunt and say that I'm secretly hoping they get at least one plane shot down for their endeavours of late and continual contravention of international law. Maybe the S-300 will succeed where the UN have failed. Maybe they will then appoint a 48H6E2 as UN Secretary General and replace the US veto with a cat.

That can't be correct. An aircraft moving at say 250m/s could move ~100m in the time it takes a round to travel 320m. If that's straight ahead and the round is fired from directly behind at an aircraft of equal speed then the funnel solution works but if the enemy is pulling lateral g then surely it goes out the window without lead computation. But then I guess you must be going in near the same direction to get the wingtips to touch the funnel???

This one? Interesting bit about R-27s used in that conflict. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vympel_R-27#Ethiopia_and_Eritrea

So you need to match the target's velocity because matching the wing tips only gives you the right distance??? When was the last air-to-air gun kill?

Depends on who's operating them and how well trained they are. Also depends on the radar units deployed and the surrounding air defences. A well set up S-300 will be near impossible for a non-stealth aircraft to take down without losses but there's nothing to say it will be well setup.

Ah, so most gun funnels are lead calculated based on the enemy's velocity.:thumbup:

^Holy crap! Interesting look at bunkers and bunker busters.

Isn't that just pilot's guess though? They're not actually showing where the enemy is going to be relative to the burst, they just show the path of the bullets through the air or am I wrong? Maybe that's just for the A-10???

F-15E F/A-18C A-10C F-16I B-52H MH-60L DAP AH-1Z

I bet with a 190kg warhead even a near miss might do it. That's more explosive than a Mk82 contains, nearer a Mk83 in fact. Bit of a waste on an IS-3.

Good info. Are funnels computed for lead though? I was lead to believe they just show the ballistic path of the bullets over distance, so if the death dot is in the funnel, surely it isn't computed for lead either, or am I wrong? Also, if a target is locked on A-10 TGP and lased, then what prevents an accurate lead solution being calculated based on the targets velocity? Found this on the LCOS sight. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/786464.pdf The later F-16s use something called EEGS apparently. The older version was called Snapshoot. Some have both. http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-1527.html http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA192615

Is a SAM an offensive weapon? - Further disturbance at Alan's Snackbar. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-05-28/russia-says-s-300-missile-sale-to-syria-will-stabilize-region

Barksdale AFB "Mole Hole"

Interesting. I've noticed that modern planes seem to have devolved back to it though. At least the A-10C anyway. Are other planes different in that regard?

Had a AGM-65H explode mid-air after about 100 yards. See 6th missile shot in attached track, also see what happened to tank that thought he'd escaped.:D Also, why do supposedly inferior earlier AGM-65Ds seem to have better locking range than Hs? Mav mid-air self-destruct.trk

Which is better?

Here's a 'render' of the J-31.

Testament to the armour.

Did he land without his gear down?

How Tank Armour Works - thought this was interesting.

J-20 equipped with 4 Pl-21s and 2 PL-10s Lijian