agathorn
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It was just the template message, you're all good
Can I ask where you heard that from? I had looked over the recent posts and didn't see anything about this.
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well what is we went into the email will we be hacked? I did not click anything in the email just looked inside to see the message?
I didn't see anything outright malicious in the email body. Just the tracking image which at worst just lets someone know you saw it.
I'm more concerned with WHY this email got sent as it could **potentially** mean ED has been compromised in some way.
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Unfortunately since I have DCS setup as "trusted" in GMail, the tracking image was automatically loaded.
I may have to rethink that setting now :(
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I can provide the raw email content if requested, but all the body contains is what appears to be a tracking image from:
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I received an mail today from DCS world that raised flags in my head. As far as I can tel it did come from DCS world, unless the address was spoofed, but it had just a title, no text in the body, and an invisible image in the body.
From: DCS World <noreply@digitalcombatsimulator.com>
Subject: Interesting offer here
Body: No text, but an invisible image
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Thanks so much for posting this! I am in the early stages of building my first panel and I know this will be super helpful.
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Hi, I've been flying for many months with my side panels in vr. Muscle memory does work, exact placement isn't necessary. I'll know soon enough if the UFC and DDIs work as well. I've tested one DDI and there were no issues. Immersion is enhanced when you can physically interact with the controls.
Oh certainly and this is what I am doing for now, mainly as I don't have space for a 1:1 pit. But imagine how much more immersion you would have if they did match up 1:1 with the in game pit.
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Hi fellas, hi Trip,
This is the principle that I have been working to as well. I am building a Mi24 pit for the module which is in development. I have some real components and some adapted components, and have recently been using some great photo reference to build actual 1:1 scale panels. Muscle memory in VR is pretty solid after a while, and one soon knows where stuff is. Of course, I am currently flying Mi-8 and other choppers, but sitting in an unfinished Mi-24 pit!
I have seen that a fellow pilot worked out how to extract the DCS model into Blender, using an Mi-8, so it can be done. I will ask how....
But I have been enlarging to full size from photos in Photoshop, using "Find Edges" filter, and printing out in black and white linework on multiple A3 sheets and then sticking them all together. I also got a Mi-24 original manual download which has some instrument layout schematics. I have a few authentic panels which I can use as scale references to resize the photos. Then paste all that onto old corrugated card boxes, cut up with box-cutters, and stick it all together with parcel tape to make a test cockpit enclosure. Worked really well, and I was then able to use those print-offs to create correct scale aluminium panels.
Still a long way to go, but it is a really effective method.
Mole
Only problem with using real world reference is I'm betting that DCS isn't exactly right, and at the end of the day what really matters is your cockpit matching the position of objects in the game, regardless of accuracy to the real thing or not.
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Interesting thread, I've been thinking through the same things myself. I have always planned on building a full close to 100% accurate Hornet pit, but after buying a rift S a couple of weeks ago, I just can't give up on VR
The ultimate solution is something along the lines of blender, where you can mark out/green screen the edge of your cockpit and just have the sim rendering the outside view.
However I am pretty certain that as long as the cockpit is close to 1:1 that there will be no problem with reaching out and flipping the correct switch. Don't forget that the switches/knobs all have different tops on them for a reason. I've done some practice with a few practice panels and was able to get the correct switch most of the time. The hard bit is getting the panel in the correct 3d position, as I don't have my pit shell yet.
What a great time to be alive!
Yeah that's why I think it would be great to be able to get the game's cockpit models extracted and into a cad program or at least a normal 3d modeler as a waystation. If we can get the actual game models then we can build a 1:1 cockpit based on them or at least real close.
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Very helpful stuff.
These forums aren't great for code though. I'd suggest using Gist and then just linking them, as it will handle the code a lot better.
Here is your last example, the radio panel for example:
https://gist.github.com/jwvanderbeck/1d53fa5ed17917fced92c3212de117f9
I'll definitely be looking at that one as the first panels I want to make are tacan and radio since those are the worst in VR. Don't need a display though :)
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I buy a lot of my stuff through Aliexpress if I can wait a month or so for it to arrive. Descriptions usually include enough information to find a datasheet. I often use Arrow and RS Electronics for things that are either urgent or are being used for things that I believe warrant it. Tactile switches, for example. For some things, I'm fine with using Aliexpress switches. $2 for a bag of 50. If the switches are going somewhere that will take me significant time or effort to replace should they go bad, I spend the same money on a single Omron switch from Arrow. It might not really make a difference but the prices are so low for the effort expended that the peace of mind is worth it.
Do you have any particular sellers on AliExpress that you use frequently?
I guess part of this too is just ordering some components from various places and seeing if you are happy with them or not. Like you say things like push buttons the feel is often very important, and you won't know if you like it or not until you try it.
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Here is a perfect example of what I mean: https://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-Rotary-encoder-with-switch-EC11-Audio-digital-potentiometer-20mm-handle/311425031956?hash=item488260df14:g:GnMAAOSwv-NWUrCs
Supposedly an EC11 Rotary Encoder. Ok let's find the datasheet. Which specific EC11 is it? I pull up the entire EC11 series on a normal electronics website and try to find this specific one. Looks like a vertical mount, ok. Listing says "Pulse Number: 20" so presumably that means it has 20 pulses. But wait, there isn't a single EC11 with 20 pulses according to the official data. There are ones with 18 pulses, but not 20.
So now I'm left wondering if it really is an EC11 at all. Is it just a mistake in the listing, or is it in fact not an EC11 but being marketed as such? Who knows, but since I don't know how can I model it up? If it was an official one I could even just download the provided CAD from the manufacturer.
So yeah if anyone knows of specific eBay stores that sell components with proper details then I'd love those links. But eBay in general searching seems pretty crappy for me so far.
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I have never had that problem. I have always been able to find data sheets when I thought a data sheet was needed. As to cad files, I have drawn over 400 AutoCAD files ranging from gauge faces, panels and knobs to PCBS for smd components working to an accuracy of .0005”. When it comes to electronic components, these Chinese, Japanese, Thai and South Korean vendors don't screw around. They can't afford to as eBay will drop them if they get complaints. Besides, where do you think the American, British, Canadian vendors get most of their parts from... Asia. :smilewink:
Arduino Mega in North America... $35.00. Chinese clone... $11.00. Functionality... same
Lighted toggle switch .... $7-8.00 in North America. From China $2.40. Both products are from same manufacturer. You can see more Chinese parts on my Flickr page. Link is in my signature.
But each to his own. If one can afford parts from Digikey and Mouser (and their shipping costs) and can't wait a few weeks for deliveries from across the world, then I say... go for it. I just want to make sure new cockpit builders know there are alternatives to the over priced parts available from your local suppliers.:pilotfly:
Oh you misunderstand me. I don't have a problem with parts from China. Its more the sellers that I have a problem with on eBay is most of the listings I found through searches were just trash and didn't really have the detailed information I would want, like the data sheets do on an electronics store. If I can find good sellers with good listings then that would be a different story. I'll check out the link in your sig.
So I guess what I am saying is that as a reference for builders of places to buy from, it would be nice to link to specific good eBay stores rather than just say "eBay".
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eBay... Chinese parts are very inexpensive. You will be amazed at the savings and the quality is definitely acceptable. With the hundreds of components I have purchased, only once did I get a batch of bad MAX 487 chips. When reported, the store sent me a new batch which worked just fine.
Just do some searching on eBay... loads of whatever you'll need.:thumbup:
Problem I have with the stuff on eBay is you don't really know exactly what you are getting, so it isn't possible to look up data sheets. I've seen several items even where they claim it is one thing but when you look up the sheets on that thing it clearly isn't what they are selling.
Since I am working up cad files its helpful to have all the dimension data.
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Curious what a "VR compatible" UFC would look like. Bigger buttons? Do your DDIs have bigger than normal buttons to better tolerate you groping at them?
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I had same trouble with bigger prints not fitting.You need a program called Meshmixer.Its free and great for slicing and dicing big prints.
Well I'm designing all my parts from scratch in Fusion 360 so I just need to engineer in a join of some kind that's all. But it certainly would have been easier if it just fit :D
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Digikey. Wow that's some serious information overload. I love it.
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Hey all,
I'm curious what are the more popular places builders around here use to source switches, buttons, rotary encoders, etc for panels?
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Figures my printer has a 120mm bed. Guess i'll be designing boxes in two pieces.
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Take a look in "DZUS" dimensions:
https://mycockpit.org/tutorials/Panelbuildingfocussedondimensions.pdf
Hahah I love those things. I don't even want to think how much time I might have spent removing boxes if they used traditional screws. Funny though I never had seen it spelled out before, so I always thought they were called Zeus fasteners lol.
Great deep dive into something I always took for granted. The insight it gives into panel dimensions is genius too. Never would have thought of that.
Thanks for the excellent link!
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Does anyone know what "standard" sizes are which are typically used for various cockpit modules on aircraft? I know they are all different sizes, but having worked on some of these decades ago when I was enlisted (EW systems), I know LRUs tended to come in various standard sizes and I'd imagine those in the cockpit are the same.
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Now to design :)
I've spent the last week stumbling along in Fusion 360 but I think I finally have my first design finished. Will be printing up this weekend and hopefully it comes out right :)
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Is there any way to get the in game cockpit models out of the game if you wanted to build a 1:1 pit to match?
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So I've been printing like crazy with my new printer, just getting my feet wet and figuring things out. I have to say so far I've been very impressed with it. I got the Monoprice Select Mini v2 and its been running hard right out of the gate without really any problems.
Suspicious email from DCS World?
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Thank you. I wouldn't have thought to look there.
Honestly when something like that happens they should send out a second email explaining it so that everyone sees it. In today's environment people are understandably paranoid.