Thankyou Leafer , yes well been busy with the outside world (3 boys , 2 step daughters and married twice ;-) ) .
the Video is outstanding , and very good control he is a very good Virt Pilot.
bit of a report on ed tracker after a days use
ed tracker did not work for me very well between having to keep it plugged into the pc (which enforces proximity to the box) and it not likeing the usb3 ports (would go nuts once temp reached over 37c) it was a no go...but when it worked it was a great 3 axis cheap IR alternative.. will stick with the hat on the hotas for now (new shower is needed in the house before I can justify 160 quid on TrackIR).. have fun all.