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F-16 D i would buy it

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Hello ED Team, Animated crew after Landing to bring the Plane to Parkingposition after a hard mission would be great. :thumbup: https://youtu.be/P36FXnzP0Go?t=101 https://youtu.be/P36FXnzP0Go?t=249

i think..the best way is to do some wind tunnel or fluid simulation of the shape jf17 model to get the true charateristic.

ok ..thx for testing :)

with the fuelconsumption of Klimov RD-93 engine (show in video post #1 it is possible to get this farry ranges...but the "power curve diagramm" of the jf17 looks not real

if you want to flatter the cruise curve ..than you have to build a plane with wings like A10 or an civil airliner.

but the Diagramm shows that the mig29 is really effencent it has two engines and is more effencent as f18 or F15 i see from the data (video post #1) that it is is possible, if just one russian Klimov RD-93 engine build in to get this low fuelconsumption.

yeah the blue one is from f15

but the jf17 dont not have a curve. it is linear

pls look at the model of mig 29 in the video from post #1 ..it shows a true power curve diagramm like all other planes in DCS

lower and higher of the minium power/drag airspeed ... you have to use more power and have more fuel consumtion

pls look at "The power required curve" diagramm http://www.pilotfriend.com/training/flight_training/aero/man_force.htm hope you can understand me what i mean with fuel consumtion at low speed and alpha

if you lower speed of the plane the wings create less lift. to compensate this you have to fly with more alpha..more alpha create more drag. more drag must compensate with more thrust. more thrust needs more fuel...absoluty basics of areodynamics. in Video posted at #1 .. JF17 show here an anomaliy...that looks to me like the programmed pyhsik model only use the parasite drag. if that true ...its for me hard to believe that everything is correct simulate in the jf17 projekt.

i have no problem to beleive saab or Chengdu/PAC. but you put some links with sources of differnd Ferryranges. (So that I cannot believe your sources at all) and my pyhsik problem is: that the jf17 has no Alpha at low speeds with result of higer fuel consumption at low speeds !!!!!

Gripen C data is a good found of you ..equal performence by equal Airplaneparameter :)

Tiger-II ferry range is from post #2 in this thread.. i am not trolling ... i cannot belief it from physics aspekt.. i had study physiks and i am engineer

low aerodynamic Drag ..i mean the shape of the plane produce less Darg to reach high speeds. like the Mirage or 104 starfighter..all mach 2 on above jets.

what is the right Ferryrange? Defintion of range: "Ferry range means the maximum range the aircraft can fly. This usually means maximum fuel load, optionally with extra fuel tanks and minimum equipment. It refers to transport of aircraft without any passengers or cargo." 1,266 miles or 2163 miles and more ferry range can be found on anther pages ??? ... i think it is strange ... not every can be right?? One Comparison: 2163 miles ferryrange by 10997 lbs fuel -> one of hightest range with one of the lowest fuelcapacity (thats Magic) because.. it must be a most economics jetengine ever build put in this plane. oh yeah right jf17 is power by the russian Klimov RD-93 engine that is used in the mig29. (i dont know... is this engine really the most economic power plant at all???) or the jf 17 has optimum of areodynamik drag -> low drag ( but than shold the jf17 fly mach 2 and above). my personel feeling is the plane is more acrade than realistic in this stange. (like the Magic performence of the SD-10)

@ AeriaGloria in your link http://www.jf-17.com/specifications is show a FerryRange of 1,266 miles for the jF17 in specificantions. thats far away from 2216 miles :D analiyse is well done...in the way like this on... thrust to Drag curve and ALPHA is a good point!!!!!! every Plane has high Alpha in low speeds !!! Deka Ironwork Simulations have to study some aerodynamics :D lot of physik in they Product are Magic