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You obviously didn't listen, read or something like that well. There is a translation of an interview with pilot Boro Zoraja in this thread, which clearly states that he spotted 3 targets during the search, locked on the closest one and waited for the launch signal. While waiting for the signal, the SPO received a signal that it was locked.Pilot Abdul Emeti had an identical situation and explained it in clear terms. It couldn't be clearer.
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I read everything, technically as much as I can understand. This is just a desire to show what it says in the pilot's manual regarding operating restrictions for the SPO device.
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Here's a scan of the original page from the L-18 Yugo pilot's manual markings for the Mig 29. I only translated the part where the warning is, below is the text that explains the sound signals and how to operate the SPO device. And that's the only warning about this device. WARNINGS: 1. The operating mode of aircraft radars of quasi-continuous radiation, which operate in the mode of tracking in transit, is not determined. 2. When irradiated by a radar of continuous and quasi-continuous radiation at long distances (when turned on up to 5 power gradations) when irradiated by the radar of the air defense missile system "Hawk", the "H" mark lights up continuously, and when irradiated by an aircraft radar of the type F-14 F 15 F 16 and F 18, this mark goes out and the "F" type lights up. 3. When irradiated by an aircraft radar of quasi-continuous radiation, at the moment of activation of the type "F", the number of power gradations briefly changes from the fifth-eighth to the first gradation with their subsequent increase. If I may ask. What is "SME"?
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Then contact the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Serbia and ask if they would be willing to provide you with old technical documentation for the Yugoslav MiG.
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Without a valid document, I cannot accept this statement as evidence.
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It couldn't have been said better. Bro, you have a pack of beer for this
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I already wrote that a friend who knows Serbian pilots who flew in 1999 and some who fly now asked about SPO 15 and that they said that ED did not really understand the essence, SPO has degraded capabilities when the radar is working but by no means does it not work at all. In Serbia, the MiG 29 is still used, technical instructions for both active pilots and maintenance people and even the word is almost impossible to get for the public. There are only Instructions for the use of the L-18 aircraft from the era of the former Yugoslavia that surfaced in some troubled times of war.
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OK, how much evidence do you have besides this Polish one? Why would you believe Western pilots who tested the unmaintained German MiG 9 and not believe Serbian pilots who were the only ones who had combat flights. Do you in the West consider Serbs to be primitive, uneducated people? Do you think we are fat here? Human memory is not reliable of course, Boro Zoraj does not remember whether he pulled the plane to the left or right, how long he maneuvered to get out of the lock, but he certainly has a deep memory of why he did it. From experience and conversations with people who have done business with you, I know for sure that you are a group of arrogant businessmen who pretend to be the smartest in the world. If someone were to bring you the engineer who made the SPO 15, you would say that Putin made him say something different from yours. There are several people on this topic who are very well-versed in technical knowledge, so you don't dare to replicate them. When you were building the F-8, external sources, such as former pilots on that plane, were relevant to you because you didn't have technical documentation for everything, so it was only important to you to know how everything behaved. And that was OK for you then, but here you are clinging to something like a drunkard to a fence.
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Bingo! When arrogance hits the head, reason loses all connection with logic and reality.
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RVR in real life is important so that the pilot knows that he is being irradiated, from which direction and that he has information that he is in the range of the enemy radar. No normal person would risk his head like we in DCS to maneuver offensively while a missile is heading towards him. As the pilot Boro Zoraja said, as soon as he was in lock, he started a defensive maneuver so that the enemy would lose him from the radar. And he mentioned that he knew that the enemy had better radars and missiles with a longer range, so we can conclude that he also considered it pointless to try to shoot the enemy even though you have him in lock and risk your life like that. I don't think any of us here are trying to say that the SPO is a much better instrument than the one in DCS now, and the pilots themselves claim that it is complicated and unreliable. But they certainly claim that SPO 15 works together with radar and that there is no such thing as a non-functioning front hemisphere with radar. For us in DCS, just signaling the irradiance of 90-90 degrees would be quite enough. Yes, for the F 18 it is quite enough to have open sources and external information and create RVR for DCS at your own discretion, while for SPO, information from people who not only practiced on that aircraft but also went into real combat with it is not taken into account.
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I wonder, do we have all the documentation and schematics for the magical RVR on the F-18? Or is it just "take my word for it"?
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If you say so, it must be so.
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We share the same opinion, at the very least you have radiation and the direction it's coming from, although you may not have the right information about what type of radiation it is. Yes, from the frontal hemisphere.
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Thank you very much, I missed the detail that the IFF check is done by switching to RL mode and that then the radar does not show the lock if it is a friendly target, I was expecting the letter c . I always keep the switch in the forward position, so that the radar does not lock on a friendly target, and then in IRST mode with the radar STT lock since I do not see C I think it is an enemy. My big mistake, thanks again.
