Yes that's the only we cam do it as the servers we create never show in the server list, any ideas why that would be? Also I have made a spare computer into a dedicated server but two things, when I start the server, on my home screen I get a big white square and all it says is in small letters " dcs dedicated server or something to that nature. But when I start the gui I get the normal server screen and can change maps etc and after the map loads the top right says that the server is active. and all we get when we try to connect to it is "server off line" and I am going crazy trying to solve these issues, so any help is greatly appreciated.