Random failures? Patrol mission.

I'm not sure - is this a feature, or is it somewhat my own actions?

(Yes, I've failed this mission horribly many many times, retry x 20 :music_whistling:)

Patrol Mission - when I detect a hostile convoy I've quite often pulled up high over the hilltops, kicked in RALT-T autohover, BARO-hold mode (for the ALT autopilot).

I'm required to anti-ice at a certain stage in the mission. Fine, I keep that running as soon as I climb. (Deice rotors, turbines, pitot / sensors).

AP fail?

Now and then the autopilot can tend to fail. It seems to happen when I pass a layer of air / temperature (this may be just a mental fluke). The shark shivers and jerks, the autopilot often fails, all modes disabling except the ALT hold mode (hm, only 90% sure about the ALT hold tough).

Panic ensues; trying to get everything normalized again.

(Result. The deadly kiss of the hilltop)

Inflight Nav update?

I've not been able to use the INS inflight navn update in this mission either, I've only tried 2 times tough.

Following the manual to the letter - works in other missions, but I suspect that something maybe missing - or that this is a feature?

Simulated permanent failure - or what am I missing?

(Everyone will eventually: Meet my parents, the hill-side)

Shkval hickup?

And once the Shkval went nutters - wouldn't stabilize. Tried the BACK, H and O dance - started to scroll left/right/up/down to the edges of it's FOV.

Tried to lock to the ground - no avail.

Tried manually scrolling back, but couldnt counter-move quickly enough.

(What my parents told me: Funky pictures is bad for you, m'kay)

Powerloss

And finally .. once I lost power, and the rotor RPM dropped below 80% - however I supect that may have been me not paying attention to de-icing.

Not quite sure still.

(Advice for the young: No warmup, no power, no batteries, no joy)

Note, none of these occurences involved any hostiles engagement (yet). Dare to calculate my survivability rate, anyone? :doh:

So - are there random failure in the game/mission? Or do I just suck, a victim of my own poor routines? :cry:

A final note - yes, I have managed to complete the mission - no worries ;)

Interesting post

I'm not sure - is this a feature, or is it somewhat my own actions?

(Yes, I've failed this mission horribly many many times, retry x 20 :music_whistling:)

 

Patrol Mission - when I detect a hostile convoy I've quite often pulled up high over the hilltops, kicked in RALT-T autohover, BARO-hold mode (for the ALT autopilot).

I'm required to anti-ice at a certain stage in the mission. Fine, I keep that running as soon as I climb. (Deice rotors, turbines, pitot / sensors).

 

AP fail?

Now and then the autopilot can tend to fail. It seems to happen when I pass a layer of air / temperature (this may be just a mental fluke). The shark shivers and jerks, the autopilot often fails, all modes disabling except the ALT hold mode (hm, only 90% sure about the ALT hold tough).

Panic ensues; trying to get everything normalized again.

(Result. The deadly kiss of the hilltop)

 

Inflight Nav update?

I've not been able to use the INS inflight navn update in this mission either, I've only tried 2 times tough.

Following the manual to the letter - works in other missions, but I suspect that something maybe missing - or that this is a feature?

Simulated permanent failure - or what am I missing?

(Everyone will eventually: Meet my parents, the hill-side)

 

Shkval hickup?

And once the Shkval went nutters - wouldn't stabilize. Tried the BACK, H and O dance - started to scroll left/right/up/down to the edges of it's FOV.

Tried to lock to the ground - no avail.

Tried manually scrolling back, but couldnt counter-move quickly enough.

(What my parents told me: Funky pictures is bad for you, m'kay)

 

Powerloss

And finally .. once I lost power, and the rotor RPM dropped below 80% - however I supect that may have been me not paying attention to de-icing.

Not quite sure still.

(Advice for the young: No warmup, no power, no batteries, no joy)

 

Note, none of these occurences involved any hostiles engagement (yet). Dare to calculate my survivability rate, anyone? :doh:

 

So - are there random failure in the game/mission? Or do I just suck, a victim of my own poor routines? :cry:

 

A final note - yes, I have managed to complete the mission - no worries ;)

Yeah I have always wondered, what is with the ice thingy? I mean don't rotors like spin at like a million miles an hour, wouldn't the heat from the engines stop ice forming, got me curious? btw excellent post, enjoyed reading it.:thumbup:

The rotors spin fast, yes. Heard about wind-chill? ;) Well, I'm actually not sure "wind-chill" is a greater factor than friction at these regimes (but I'm sure someone around here will know, and be able to explain).

As for the heat from the engines, you have to remember where that heat is going - the exhaust. That is, out of the engine. The intakes will be grabbing cool air, which means that the entry stages of the compressor will not have the advantage of hot burning fuel-heated air.

The anti-ice system for the engine does indeed use part of the hot air though, from what I've understood re-routing it to keep the whole engine warm (as opposed to just the combustion chambers and exhaust area). This does however take some of the engine strength and will thus reduce either your fuel efficiency or your max speed/max altitude. For this reason they gave you the option to not have these systems active when you don't need them.

EDIT: Oh, and if you meant that the engine heat would heat the rotors - no. You have two extremely fast spinning rotors causing a pretty impressive downwash (remember, they're manipulating air with a force equivalent to the 6 or so tonnes that your aircraft weighs), which means that the hot air in question will be pushed down and away from the helicopter pretty fast. (There might be some vortex shenanigans going on to falsify this though, but that would go beyond my knowledge in the area.)

Yeah I have always wondered, what is with the ice thingy? I mean don't rotors like spin at like a million miles an hour, wouldn't the heat from the engines stop ice forming, got me curious? btw excellent post, enjoyed reading it.

*edit...snapped by Eth*

^^ as a matter of fact, thats exactly what happens...IF you turn on the engine de-icing! .. it redirects some of the exhaust gasses (I think?) to around teh air intakes, whcih are prone to icing.

The Rotor de-icing uses an electrical current (kida like the de-fogger on teh back window of your car).

Ice forms on the rotors BECAUSE they are spinning at a milltion miles an hour...imagine how cold it would be if you were sitting on the leading edge spinning around at whatever RPM...you'd have ice on you too!

Actually, I wonder if you could de-ice your blades with the engine exhaust if you just put yourself into a Vortex Ring State on purpose? :D

(I will NOT be the test pilot for that... :P )

hehehe you're not mentally stable, Eth. Crazy swede ;)

Anyway, all the things that can go wrong - aww, thats why I love this sim.

You really need to pay attention, no mercy for the rookies here.

Altough - we can learn by our mistakes, which I hopefully will do ... by the time the next DCS is released.

(famous last words) .... I do suck a bit less now, .... ooo, is that snot on my monitor? Why is it moving?!

Okai, so someone is in trouble. I mean, it's not that random at all.

The trend is that I manage to find a new way of dying every time land rest my bum in the seat.

Mission, The Battle.

Hud failure.

Now, I can't blame myself for this one. It's quite certain it was some other gentlemen shooting back at me. Probably because I wrecked a vehicle in front of him and they all got stuck in traffic.

So I try to communicate back that I do not appreciate toddlers with roadrage. Unfortunatly for the Hind in front of me, ... well, it's not my fault ... I had no hud.

No point sticking around here. I'm RTB.

Engine, uhm, hickup?

*Meep*meep*. Turbine overspeed. Ahgawd! Rotor RPM minim treshold.

No power. No Autopilot.

Phew - good thing I suck no more. Manages to stabilize this piece of &%#%¤. A good 20 clicks to homeplate. Without Autopilot.

Let's fly back home 'geeeently' :music_whistling: - no more fu**ups please.

"Sir, two, theres a flyboy shooting at me. Permission to shoot back".

Eh? Seriously? Where do they get these recruits.... "two, if someone takes a pop at you, let the Focker have it".

Actually I'm getting good at delegating work too.

Okai, so temperature is fluxuating on the hm, right engine. Right. A bit high?

Okai, and turbine speed is low on 2? Or high on 1? And who's 1, right? Left? Then what is 2?

So how to I turn down the RPM for the #1? The red lever is the throttle, right. Right leveler.

... aw$&&%#%!!!

Never - ever, never. ... kill your one good engine. :wallbash:

I suck!

Never - ever, never. ... kill your one good engine. :wallbash:

 

I suck!

:megalol:

I so did something similar once. I was taking fire - and then I caught fire, in number two engine. But I hadn't really checked out the whole engine system stuff at that point (didn't even do manual start back then) so I hit a fire extinguisher. And extinguished the non-existant fire in the other engine. Ah well, might as well let the other one off too then, since it's still burning. I then managed to figure out how to shut it down and get rid of the fuel supply and all that.

Then number one engine caught fire.

:cry:

:megalol: lol

Indeed. I've been practicing engine malfunctions all night.

Up to 4000 meters, close the turbine valves.

APU fuel switch, APU startup, engine start & spool, open valves ... repeat.

Made one successful recovery out of 8

The 7 other attempts I lost all rotor-RPM and spun out :(

I still suck. :thumbup:

Still a good chanllenge to restart the engines in air.

excellent

You guys are great, I enjoy reading the replies, yeah it would seem there are all those 'rewards' to look forward to:pilotfly:

Cheers