Auto lock on target?

I saw in the commands list file that there are some auto lock commands that can be used in FC. My question again is how realistic is this - are all fighters (F-15, Su-27/33, Mig-29) modelled in LOFC capable of: auto lock on nearest air target/next AT/previous AT? If they are how exactly is this happening in reality - is switching targets as easy as pushing one button? There are also similar commands for ground targets, which probably are not realistic in A-10/Su-25 as they are not using radars to detect the targets and will need more work from the pilot to find/lock them, but i might be wrong.

I know RU fighters have function to autolock first, enemy, closest target detected. It is one of radar function IIRC. I think it is similaro to US birds.

I don't know how it is real in Russian birds to choose detected targets as NEXT\PREVIOUS mode. I guess it would be in US planes rather. I don't say about newer RU Sus or Migs - I mean only these in LO.

A-10 and Su-25A don't have any radar. They need to find target visually or by TV seeker. In this situation Su-25A is completely disaster, A-10 pwns all :D

About MiG-29S

MiG-29S has got an upgraded RLPK-29M and SUV-29C for ability of using RVV-AE missiles. It can be used for two targets simultaneously. It was shown that the new SUV provides simultaneous or sequential start-up of missiles on targets separated in azimuth angle of more than 8 ╟ or in one azimuth at a distance of more than 10 km. At the entrance of the two goals allowed in the zone starts and appears on the screen of a single indication of the start-up characters can be either manually or automatically . If the objectives included in the permitted area startups sequentially, one after another, it has to be made and missile launches. Equipping aircraft with new medium-range missiles, primarily RVV-AE, enhance its effectiveness in air combat, as compared with original MiG-29 in 2.5-3 times. According to experts in the air battle on the high ranges MiG-29C is better than F-16C and Rafale for 10%, 2000-5 Mirage and Gripen JAS39

next / prev is used with easy radar setting

GGTharos mentioned in some other thread about PESA being able to auto target... I assume the F-15 modelled in FC should be able to auto lock on nearest or probably even to determine most dangerous target and auto lock it :huh: We need some Mig-29/Su-27 pilot to confirm how these birds are doing this. IMO this is a pretty useful thing when outnumbered and can save you several seconds. But if it is not present in reality i won`t use it in game, easy radar is bull...t. :)

I read Su-27's manual:

OLS or RLPK ( radar ) can automatically lock on first target

I read Su-27's manual:

The EOS too? Nice. First as first detected or closest?

You can download some here: http://www.airwar.ru/other/bibl_r.html

The EOS too? Nice. First as first detected or closest?

First detected.

You can download some here: http://www.airwar.ru/other/bibl_r.html

Thanks, mate.

in SNP("tws") mode the mig29 and Su27 of this age will automatically move the cursor/designate

the most threatening target, that is the target with shortest estimated closing time.

This is also taken from the manuals of the aircraft, translated to me by =RaF=Wed

Such a function was introduced in LRM

Edit : Wow mean radar can also if the pilot wants( button press ) automatically target the closest?!

I mean you say to first detected, but you also say this is both OLS and radar... But first detected?

Does the radar ALWAYS do this or just in special setting?

Is this in BVR mode?

Is it possible in real su27/mig29 of this age, to press a button/switch, which makes the aircraft automatically designate

and/or lock nearest or maybe next target detected by radar?

I would like to know because I would very much like to program such a feature for lockon :)

I just need to know how it works in the flanker/mig before I do it!

On the other hand, an F-15C will designate and re-designate up to 8 targets with the push of a switch all on its own.

That radar is very automated, but AESA is even more so - it's very much like easy radar.

 

I would like to know because I would very much like to program such a feature for lockon :)

I just need to know how it works in the flanker/mig before I do it!

Is such feature possible to mod? Please say "yes" :)

Is such feature possible to mod? Please say "yes" :)

yes,

simple :P

Just show me how it works and ill make it.

I need to know specifics like if you need to press a button, if it jumps to the first/closest

detected contact after you press this button.

yes,

simple :P

 

Just show me how it works and ill make it.

I need to know specifics like if you need to press a button, if it jumps to the first/closest

detected contact after you press this button.

Great :joystick: People search! How auto lock works in real F-15C/Mig-29S/Su-27/33? Buttons, switches, telekinesis...?

Actually finding the procedure that is used in the F-15C is right now impossible to obtain - it is contained in the -34's (which have now been superceded by the ATTPs) which are all classified. These documents are basically the operator's manuals for the offensive avionics, AFAIK.

Actually finding the procedure that is used in the F-15C is right now impossible to obtain - it is contained in the -34's (which have now been superceded by the ATTPs) which are all classified. These documents are basically the operator's manuals for the offensive avionics, AFAIK.

:doh: So there is no way to obtain that info, even a part of the procedure? Hope it`s not that bad with the russian planes...

It is a little better with export versions of the Su-27 and MiG-29, but their radars are missing some 'war reserve modes' that the Russian AF versions have.

As for the F-15C, yeah, it's hard to get info. There is SOME info out there, but very little. In addition there is a lot of stuff about some of the things mentioned that is not well described.

It is a little better with export versions of the Su-27 and MiG-29, but their radars are missing some 'war reserve modes' that the Russian AF versions have.

 

As for the F-15C, yeah, it's hard to get info. There is SOME info out there, but very little. In addition there is a lot of stuff about some of the things mentioned that is not well described.

Could it be assumed that another US fighter F-16/F-18 should have similar procedures, and use them instead if they are not classified?

Not really - some things will be similar or the same (in general, the way a TWS or RWS mode works will be similar for example, at least in concept) but the software for these radars changes all the time, so it'll do all sorts of things you might not have thought of.

For example, suppose you are having a missile duel with someone in your F-15C ... you put him on the gimbals and as the missile goes pitbull you pull into the notch, dropping him off your radar. A short time later you turn back into him.

In LO, you'd have to find and lock up the target again. In a real F-15C, if the target is still maintaining general flight parameters just might do it for you ...

Does the F-16 do things like this? Not as far as I know. It also doesn't or at least didn't have the ability to IFF for a long time - the F-15 did. That's just a couple simple things, and who knows what sort of complex capabilitiels exist? (Or other simple things that we don't even think of)

Hmm, with so much classified data are we to expect "DCS: Modern US Fighter" at all? I don`t want some DCS: P-51...

Yes, you can expect one - with the right contract the right information could be made available.

There is enough info out there on the F-15 one ;) to make it work.

Basically it is enough if we get a pilot or good source telling us

"if I press a button I can make the radar/cursor designate what it considers

the next, or closest, or first, or most dangerous detected contact",

as this is the kind of information we have on the eagle, equivalent on mig29/su27

will suffice. The mod is already in for the F-15 as such in LRM.

I don't need to know where in the pit this switch or what button on the stick

that does this, just that there is such an ability. (For F-16 on the other hand

I do know where it is located though, cause it's in a manual I posses ;))

Then I got some great help, we had an actual Eagle pilot testing LRM target step/snap, and he said it was OK.

What I'm missing mostly is the ability to expand radar view (basically zoom in) to separate

the graphics of contacts that the radar has already detected as separate contacts.

Here is this page. And my variant of translating.

7. Switcher LOCK-ON AUTO-MANUAL with its positions

-AUTO- for automatical change RLPK's mode from viewing to aiming and automatical Lock-on for first detected target;

-MANUAL- for aiming manually with KU-31.

Sry i cannot read that.

I dont understand what you mean Gigz-on, can you give me the full procedure please?

Is this for CAC modes or bvr?

what exactly does it do?