Ktulu2 Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 I'm building a chair to have my hotas placed like in a real plane, and, as the warthog is super expensive, I do not want to dammage its wires. So I decided to link the hotas to my pc by a usb extension or a usb hub. The thing is that I don't know if these extensions could degrade gameplay (by latency or anything else) or could dammage the commands. Hope you can explain to me wether i'm making stuff up or I am about to blow up my warthog Thank you I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public
cichlidfan Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Buy a decent POWERED hub and everything will be just fine. Mine has been running through a hub for over 3 years with no issues. Regarding latency, USB is probably faster than your controller would ever need it to be. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Ktulu2 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 What do you mean by a decent powered hub? I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public
cichlidfan Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 A known brand, good reviews. There are lots of them out there and most of them will work just fine. Just don't buy the cheapest one you see. You definitely want a powered hub so that your motherboard is not providing power to everything plugged into the hub, through one port on the motherboard. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Ktulu2 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 Thank you Can I also get your opinion on usb extensions, as It'd fit my plan better. how about something like this : http://addison-electronique.com/catalog/product/view/id/17641/s/extension-actif-usb-2-0-a-male-a-a-femelle-5m/ or this : http://addison-electronique.com/catalog/product/view/id/16710/s/10ft-usb-2-0-extension-cable-a-male-to-b-male/ would those cause a latency problem? I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public
cichlidfan Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 I have extensions in use as well. I don't recall the USB limits off of the top of my head, but as long as you don't exceed the maximum length. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Ktulu2 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 All right, thanks you very much, you have been very usefull! I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public
weeb Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) If this helps: USB Older style 1.x and (most common USB 2.x) use twisted pair connection, (like direct cable connection between 2 pc's without router or hub), it's complicated but simply put you can use usb cable 1.x max 5 metres with devices that operate at 12MBits/s or 3m at 1.5 MBits/s. Usb2 max 5 metres at 480MBit/s purely because of ping response time, if round-trip delay of signal is too long the host considers the signal is lost. Usb3 max 3 metres. I have used cables longer than specified regulations without degradation so in answer to your question, you wont damage anything trying longer cables as the signal may be degraded, the hub negates this problem, but you might hit the ping response time wall and something stops working. The above is simplified ( I wont go into wiring regulations and twisted pair explanation as the hub switches this around, a good powered hub is the way to go, google will suffice). Edited December 28, 2014 by weeb Windows 7 64 Home Premium, i5 3570K (3.4 @ 4.4GHz), Asus P8Z77-V LX, 16GB dual channel 1600 ram, EVGA Nvidia GTX980ti, 240 GB OCZ SSD, 3 TB Raptor, Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas and Throttle, Saitek Pro Combat Rudder pedals.
carkifelek Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Ktulu2, your HOTAS can actually work with just your computer’s PSU as well depending on the available power of the PSU and the power requirement of your complete system. Check the requirements of your HOTAS, PSU and complete computer system before you decide to buy a power hub. This will also give an idea of what sort of a power hub you want since the new power hub should be able to individually power up your HOTAS. complete pcb
Ktulu2 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Posted January 6, 2015 I bought usb extensions instead, it was more practical, but thanks anyway. I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public
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